I'm glad for all the support that I've been receiving from many people
 who I haven't met yet for my attempts to clarify some issues there
 seems to be a lot of confusion about.
 
 There are still some points of confusion that I'd like to make an
 effort to clear up.
 
 Within the Christian belief system, Christ sacrificed his life for the
 salvation of mankind. People who took up his cause did so voluntarily,
 The story goes that the majority of his most ardent followers were
 martyred in similar fashion.
 
 However in none of their cases did they die as a result of invading
 other countries as part of a military force; their use of napalm on
 children is not recorded in the Bible. I missed the part where St.
 Paul raped and killed the women of Thessalonia as part of a "hearts
 and minds" campaign goes unreported.
 
 Peter's direction of mass assassination programs to achieve rural
 pacification has escaped my admittedly desultory reading of the Bible.
  Perhaps one of the few of the people on this distribution who have
 some disagreement with what I have said can point me to the scripture
 that discusses this.
 
 There are plenty of examples in the old testament with the great hairy
 thunderer in the sky ordered his chosen people to commit genocide
 against competing tribes. My  opinion is that  his chosen people were
 mistaken about his desires.  The majority opinion is that God wised
 up.  In any event, the benign message of the new testament was pretty
 much put aside when the Christian Church was Romanized.  Generally,
 people think it went the other way around, but in fact, the Church
 came to serve the goals of empire, rather than the empire serving the
 goals of the Church.
 
 I don't believe there is any scriptural support for the idea that
 Hairy Thunderer changed his mind yet again, and said "I guess it was a
 mistake for me to loosen up.  Forget all that 'Jesus died for your
 sins' claptrap, I don't know what I was thinking. Give me some more
 genocidal wars to cheer me up.  Give me some good old fashioned race
 based hate.  Draw and quarter me up some people that give the wrong
 answer to the question 'how many angels can dance on the head of a
 pin.'"
 
 Still, this is how the members of some of these group "think" and it's
 a terrible tragedy that so many are stuck not only in
 pre-enlightenment times, but  pre-Resurrection times as well.
 
 Presumably Mary understood why her son died, having been exposed to
 the message he delivered for 33 years.  Cindy Sheehan understood that
 her son died for entirely different reasons, and her unwillingness to
 think there was anything Christlike about his death has earned her the
 intense hatred of many, many uninformed people.  As Shakespeare said,
 "He jests at scars, who never felt a wound."  The same is true of Pat
 Tilman's family.  They have fallen from the pedestal because they too
 have a clear understanding of why their son died.
 
 Here is some more information on what US servicemen die for.
 
 August 24, 2007
 Eyes Closed to History
 Bush, Vietnam and Iraq
 
 By WILLIAM SCHRODER
 
 In his speech at the national convention of the Veterans of Foreign
 Wars, the President said the American pullout from Vietnam caused the
 deaths of millions in Cambodia and Vietnam. Thus spoken, Mr. Bush
 would have us believe invasion and bloody occupation of sovereign
 nations is not problematic. Instead, stopping the fighting and leaving
 the indigenous citizens to their own affairs is the greater evil.
 
 The facts, however, are at variance with Mr. Bush's statements
 concerning the suffering of Southeast Asians. Millions of Cambodians
 died on the "killing fields" because secret American carpet bombing
 destroyed their nation and created an environment in which armed thugs
 led by Pol Pot took over unchallenged. In 1969, President Nixon
 ordered every available American plane into Cambodia to "crack the
 hell out of them." He wanted them to "hit everything." Secretary of
 State, Henry Kissinger, subsequently transmitted the order to his top
 aide, Alexander Haig, this way: "Anything that flies or anything that
 moves." When Cambodia collapsed under the weight of the American Air
 Force, Prince Sihanouk fled to China, and the bad guys took over.
 Cambodian life under the bloody rule of the Khmer Rouge is well
 documented.
 
 But what of the Vietnamese people and their other neighbors? In his
 speech, Mr. Bush spoke of "boat people" and "re-education camps,"
 certainly a chaotic, frightful time for millions of innocent peasants,
 but Mr. Bush failed to mention that was not the extent of their
 suffering. The tragic aftermath of the American invasion of Southeast
 Asia kills and cripples to this day. More than thirty years after the
 Vietnam War, the misery index rises even though the shooting has long
 stopped. Historians, scholars, political scientists and high-level
 government officials have written volumes about America's experience
 in Vietnam, and careful examination of a representative sample of this
 material reveals a wealth of understanding. Estimates range as high as
 3,000,000 Vietnamese men, women and children and an additional
 1,000,000 Cambodian/Lao were killed or wounded during the fighting,
 but that's only the beginning.
 
 Today, vast expanses of once productive Southeast Asian land threaten
 the native population. Death, disease and disfigurement are embedded
 in the very soil under their feet. Records show between 1961 and 1971,
 the U.S. sprayed approximately 76,000,000 liters of herbicide (Agents
 Orange, Green, Pink, Purple and White), 8,800 tons over an area of
 6,000,000 square acres, 14% of Vietnam's land mass. Dioxins, the
 active family of chemicals in Agent Orange, are known health risks to
 humans. Sampling studies undertaken in the 1990's revealed dangerously
 high levels of contaminant in Vietnamese forests, soil, fishpond
 sediment, fish and fowl tissue and human blood. Agent Orange Dioxin in
 human blood samples taken from Vietnamese men and women ranging from
 twelve to twenty-five years old clearly show the contaminant chemicals
 have moved up through the food chain into humans.
 
 Science has only begun to catalogue the long-term effects of Agent
 Orange on the Vietnamese, but the statistics are frightening. As early
 as 1970, Saigon's leading maternity hospital reported a monthly
 average of 140 miscarriages and 150 premature births in 2800
 pregnancies. As compared to others in the region, children living in
 areas sprayed with Agent Orange were found to suffer three times as
 many cleft palates, three times as much mental retardation, were three
 times as likely to have extra fingers or toes and eight times as
 likely to experience massive abdominal and inguinal hernias. In
 addition, Vietnamese children living in sprayed areas suffered
 dwarfism, impaired vision, Down syndrome, heart disorders, enlarged
 heads and other deformities. Studies show severely affected children
 rarely lived beyond age twenty.
 
 More is known about the effects of Agent Orange from treating American
 servicemen, perhaps exposed while flying aircraft that disseminated
 the contaminant or ground troops caught in the fallout. Doctors
 treating veterans years  even decades  after exposure have recorded
 a procession of life-threatening and life-diminishing symptoms.
 American Vietnam veterans are far more likely to suffer immune system
 disorders, soft tissue sarcomas, non-Hodgkin's lymphoma, respiratory
 cancers, liver disorders and even lower sperm counts. Children born to
 Vietnam veterans are more prone to birth defects relating to the
 nervous system, kidneys and oral clefts. Sudden Infant Death Syndrome
 is 400% more likely to occur in infants born to the men and women who
 served in Vietnam. Anecdotally, friends and family of Vietnam veterans
 tell stories of their loved one aging decades, seemingly overnight.
 The veteran's hair falls out in clumps and what remains turns white.
 Families report their veteran fathers, mothers, sons and brothers
 suffer from undiagnosed nerve disorders, irritability, weight loss,
 palsies and sometimes, sudden, unexplained death.
 
 The Vietnam War misery index can be further expanded to include the
 estimated 100,000 Southeast Asian men, women and children subsequently
 killed, maimed or mutilated by unexploded landmines, artillery, bombs,
 grenades and a variety of other ordnance that lay concealed but still
 lethal in the forests and rice paddies throughout Vietnam, Cambodia
 and Laos. After the cessation of hostilities, 3,500,000 landmines
 remained armed and buried in Vietnam. Short on funds and
 organizational support, in 2004, the Vietnamese government claimed to
 have cleared 100,000 mines in recent years, but United Nations
 estimates are closer to 59,000. According to UN officials, landmines
 in Vietnam are a primary obstacle to its social and economic
 development. In addition to killing or mutilating thousands of people
 each year, many of whom are children, their very presence in the
 countryside impedes the healthy development of millions of others.
 
 In March 1964, five months before the first American bombing raid on
 North Vietnam, the United States organized a secret bombing campaign
 in Laos. Using unmarked planes, pilots initially attacked the Ho Chi
 Minh Trail, the increasingly important Communist supply route from
 North to South Vietnam. However, as the months passed, the air war
 intensified, and targets included Laotian villages, which drove a
 million peasants from their homes. For nine years, Laos was the most
 bombed country in the world. In 2004, Congresswoman Betty McCollum (D
  Minnesota's 4th District) testified on the floor of the United
 States House of Representatives, "From 1964 to 1973, the U.S. flew
 580,000 bombing runs over Laos  one every nine minutes for ten years.
 More than two million tons of ordnance was dropped on Laos, double the
 amount dropped in the European theater during the entirety of World
 War II. As many as 30% of the bombs dropped on Laos did not explode,
 leaving up to 20 million unexploded submunitions, also known as
 'bombies' littered throughout the country.
 
 "These American 'bombies' may be thirty years old, but they continue
 to kill and maim children as well as farmers clearing land for
 planting. In the first five months of 2004, 39 people died and 74 have
 been maimed by unexploded ordnance. In the thirty years since the end
 of the Vietnam War, an estimated 10,000 Lao people, including
 thousands of children, have died. And while Lao families struggle for
 food and survival, tens of thousands of acres of land cannot be put
 into agricultural production because the earth has been contaminated
 with this deadly cluster ordnance."
 
 The negative effects of the American invasion of Southeast Asia ripple
 across the generations, and similar damage may already be done in
 Iraq. Researchers have yet to calculate the long term effects of
 depleted uranium (DU) munitions. Consider this testimony from Dr.
 Jawad Al-Ali, director of the Oncology Center at the largest hospital
 in Basra, Iraq at a 2003 conference in Japan: "Two strange phenomena
 have come about in Basra, which I have never seen before. The first is
 double and triple cancers in one patient. For example, leukemia and
 cancer of the stomach. We had one patient with two cancers - one in
 his stomach and kidney. Months later, primary cancer developed in his
 other kidney. He had three different cancer types. The second is the
 clustering of cancer in families. We have 58 families here with more
 than one person affected by cancer. Dr Yasin, a general Surgeon here,
 has two uncles, a sister and cousin affected with cancer. Dr Mazen,
 another specialist, has six family members suffering from cancer. My
 wife has nine members of her family with cancer.
 
 "Children in particular are susceptible to DU poisoning. They have a
 much higher absorption rate as their blood is being used to build and
 nourish their bones, and they have a lot of soft tissues. Bone cancer
 and leukemia used to be diseases affecting them the most, however,
 cancer of the lymph system which can develop anywhere on the body, and
 has rarely been seen before the age of 12, is now also common."
 
 Sadly, thirty years from now, another generation of researchers will
 examine the aftermath of America's misadventure in Iraq. We can only
 hope the politicians of that era will not ignore the facts when making
 policy.
 
 William Schroder is a Vietnam veteran and with Dr. Ron Dawe, co-author
 of Soldier's Heart: Close-up Today with PTSD in Vietnam Veterans.