I've finally achieved consistency in my life. Any person of average or above intelligence can predict what I will say next with unerring accuracy. And what I say will always be wrong.

Saturday, January 14, 2006

[CanYoAssDigIt] Language Watch

(4) "During the production of "Robin Hood" Disney finally began to
recruit new animators. For more than two decades, the studio had been
relying on a small corps of experimented artists. The Disney staff was
generally acknowledged as the best in the world, and there was little
impetus to search for new talent. (Disney was not the only studio that
failed to recruit young animators; very few artists entered the field
between the mid-1950s and the mid-1970s.)

"experimented artists"?

from www.magicalears.com/films/Interviews/Interview%20with%20Glen%20Keane-May,%201997/Notes%20about%20Glen/


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Friday, January 13, 2006

[CanYoAssDigIt] Matt's excellent cyber adventure - the sequel

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valis2001us: let's not talk about your pictures just yet.
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[CanYoAssDigIt] Scarlett Johansson

I feel a rant coming on about things I shouldn't even care about.

First of all, I saw "Lost In Translation" the other night with Anne.
She is probably never going to watch another film on my recommendation
again. It was extremely tedious, and it was more reminiscent of a
student film (with big stars) than anything else.

People were falling all over themselves to rehabilitate Sophia Coppola
after her nepotistic appearance in one of these gangster movies her
father makes that are so dang popular... they went way way too far in
that regard, I just can't believe this film would have gotten much
attention if it had been made by somebody with a different.

One thing I read about the film that I now think is truly bizarre was
praise for Ms. Coppola for courageously casting an unconventional
looking woman for the female lead.

C'mon, does Scarlett Johansson depart from the model of the standard
beauty in any discernible way? She looks a little chunky in her
Golden Globes outfit, but from other pictures it appears she doesn't
the standard Hollywood weight loss thing. I think her attempts to
look really good for the golden globes is sad and misguided - she
looks more than faintly ridiculous in that dress.

She sports a natural look in Lost In Translation, and looks much better.

Luciana is a big Lost In Translation fan, so I was looking forward to
seeing it so we'd have something new to "chat" about (via e-mail) -
now I feel like I don't want to bring up the topic, I was so
disappointed with the film.


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Thursday, January 12, 2006

[CanYoAssDigIt] In homage to Hugh Thompson

Let us pause for a moment and pay tribute to a true and patriot
American, who stands in start contrast to cowardly phonies Arnold
Schwartzenegger, Sylvester Stallone, Toby Keith, John Wayne, George W
Bush, Ronald Reagan, Richard Nixon, Colin Powell, and sadly, so many,
many more...
January 12, 2006

He Broke Ranks; He Did the Right Thing
Hugh Thompson and My Lai
By CLANCY SIGAL

There is an Ugly American, a Quiet American and then there's Hugh
Thompson, the Army helicopter pilot who, with his two younger crew
mates, was on a mission to draw enemy fire over the Vietnamese village
of My Lai in March, 1968. Hovering over a paddy field, they watched a
platoon of American soldiers led by Lt. William Calley, deliberately
shoot unarmed Vietnamese civilians, mainly women and children,
cowering in muddy ditches. Thompson landed his craft and appealed to
the soldiers, and to Calley, to stop the killings. Calley told
Thompson to mind his own business.

Thompson took off but then one of his crew shouted that the shooting
had begun again. According to his later testimony, Thompson was
uncertain what to do. Americans murdering innocent bystanders was hard
for him to process. But when he saw Vietnamese survivors chased by
soldiers, he landed his chopper between the villagers and troopers,
and ordered his crew to fire at any American soldiers shooting at
civilians. Then he got on the radio and begged U.S. gunships above him
to rescue those villagers he could not cram into his own craft.

On returning to base, Thompson, almost incoherent with rage,
immediately reported the massacre to superiors, who did nothing, until
months later when the My Lai story leaked to the public. The
eyewitness testimony of Thompson and his surviving crew member helped
convict Calley at a court-martial. But when he returned to his
Stateside home in Stone Mountain, Georgia, Thompson received death
threats and insults, while Calley was pardoned by President Nixon.
Indeed, for a time, Thompson himself feared court-martial.
Reluctantly, the massacre was investigated by then-major Colin Powell,
of the Americal Division, who reported relations between U.S. soldiers
and Vietnamese civilians as "excellent"; Powell's whitewash was the
foundation of his meteoric rise through the ranks.

Hugh Thompson died last week, age sixty two. Thirty years after My
Lai, he, and his gunner Lawrence Colburn, had received the Soldiers
Medal, as did the third crew member, Glenn Andreotta, who was killed
in combat. "Don't do the right thing looking for a reward, because it
might not come," Thompson wryly observed at the ceremony.

Something stuck in my head when I learned of Thompson's death. "There
was no thinking about it," he said before his death. "There was
something that had to be done, and it had to be done fast."

Words similar to these are often used by combat heroes to describe
incredible feats of courage under fire. With one possible difference.
According to the record, Thompson did have time to think about it as
he took off from My Lai, hovered and tried to wrap his mind around the
horror below. Then he made a conscious decision to save lives. Some of
the Vietnamese he rescued, children then, are alive today.

Ex-chief warrant officer Thompson is a member of a small, elite corps
of Americans who have broken ranks and refused to run with the herd.
They include Army specialist Joseph Darby, of the 372d Military Police
Company, who reported on his fellow soldiers who were torturing
prisoners at Abu Ghraib prison. His family has received threats to
their personal safety in their Maryland hometown. And Captain Ian
Fishback, the 82d Airborne West Pointer, who served combat tours in
Iraq and Afghanistan, and tried vainly for seventeen months to
persuade superiors that detainee torture was a systematic, and not a
'few bad apples', problem inside the U.S. military. In frustration, he
wrote to Senator McCain, which led directly to McCain's anti-torture
amendment. I wouldn't want to bet on the longevity of Captain
Fishback's military career.

Thompson's death also reminded me of Captain Lawrence Rockwood, of the
10th Mountain Division. Ten years ago, Rockwood was deployed to Haiti
where, against orders, he personally investigated detainee abuse at
the National Penitentiary in the heart of Port au Prince. He was
court-martialed for criticizing the U.S. military's refusal to
intervene, and kicked out of the Army. While still on duty, he kept a
photograph on his desk of a man he greatly admired. It was of Captain
Hugh Thompson.

Some of my friends get so angry at the Bush White House, and so
despairing, that they slip into a mindset where Americans - the great
'Them' out there - are lumped into a solid bloc of malign ignoramuses.
They forget that this country is also made up of people like Hugh
Thompson, Joe Darby, Ian Fishback and Lawrence Rockwood - outside and
inside the military.

Clancy Sigal's Zone of The Interior, is finally being published in the
UK, by Pomona at £9.99. Sigal can be reached at clancy@jsasoc.com.


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Friday, January 06, 2006

[CanYoAssDigIt] Re: * Reminder: Matt Love has invited you to join Friendster

Hey, dude, you['re breaking my heart.  My mouth is made with only the cleanest ingredients available, and contaminated with no bovine products whatsoever!

When was the last time you heard somebody use the word "whatsoever?" 

The other day I called somebody a "feller" and a friend said he hadn't heard that one since 1894.  It's not quite "zounds!" but still.

So remember, I'm just an old fashioned guy with no beef out looking for some clean fun. 

Is that so wrong?  Why am I so misunderstood? I've had this bar of soap since I was a little child.

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Thursday, January 05, 2006

[CanYoAssDigIt] The Bush Presidency: A return to traditional values

The traditional values of the Reagan years. An adoring press
(displaying not a trace of "liberal bias") adores and excuses a chief
executive that hardly seems to to be there, while thugs and pirates
wrapped in flags loot the country

February 7, 1999
Remembering The 1980s:
The Press Slept While Reagan Rambled

by Jeff Cohen

The national press corps, inflamed by President Clinton's personal
failings, has howled like a wolfpack at the White House for over a
year now.

Things were a bit different during the Reagan era.

In her new book "Reporting Live," former CBS White House correspondent
Lesley Stahl writes that she and other reporters suspected that Reagan
was "sinking into senility" years before he left office. She writes
that White House aides "covered up his condition"-- and journalists
chose not to pursue it.

Stahl describes a particularly unsettling encounter with Reagan in the
summer of 1986: her "final meeting" with the President, typically a
chance to ask a few parting questions for a "going-away story." But
White House Press Secretary Larry Speakes made her promise not to ask
anything.

Although she'd covered Reagan for years, the glazed-eyed and fogged-up
President "didn't seem to know who I was," writes Stahl. For several
moments as she talked to him in the Oval Office, a vacant Reagan
barely seemed to realize anyone else was in the room. Meanwhile,
Speakes was literally shouting instructions to the President,
reminding him to give Stahl White House souvenirs.

Panicking at the thought of having to report on that night's news that
"the president of the United States is a doddering space cadet," Stahl
was relieved that Reagan soon reemerged into alertness, recognized her
and chatted coherently with her husband, a screenwriter. "I had come
that close to reporting that Reagan was senile."

Stahl wasn't the only reporter to hold back. Nor were her bosses at
CBS the only ones to pressure journalists to soften their coverage of
Reagan, both of his policies and his person.

But that was back then. Beginning 13 months ago, the President's
personal sexual predilections became the country's top news story; 13
years ago, a matter as important to the public as the President's
mental competence was deemed off-limits.

The national press corps spent years either ignoring the issue or
euphemizing it as "inattentiveness" or "the age issue" or his lax
"management style."

Some Americans may not remember the era when Teflon news coverage was
afforded to a president who fell asleep at White House meetings and
didn't recognize members of his Cabinet. Untethered by cue cards or
teleprompter, he could ramble off into dark fogs of gibberish.

Today's media are quick to note that Clinton now avoids news
conferences in fear of having to answer questions about l'affaire
Monica. Reagan broke records for the fewest news conferences. And for
obvious reasons. In October 1987, in his first press conference in
seven months, here's how President Reagan answered a question about
whether taxes should be increased:

"The problem is the deficit is -- or should I say -- wait a minute,
the spending, I should say, of gross national product, forgive me --
the spending is roughly 23 to 24 per cent. So that it is in -- it what
is increasing while the revenues are staying proportionately the same
and what would be the proper amount they should, that we should be
taking from the private sector."

That answer was no less coherent than his repeatedly befuddled
responses ("The poverty rate has begun to decline, but it is still
going up.") -- and his rousing "I'm all confused now" summation at the
1984 debate with Walter Mondale in Louisville.

At a disjointed 30-minute news conference in June 1986, the President
served up consistently muddled answers (aides had to immediately
"clarify" several of their boss' claims), but no reporter present was
willing to ask publicly what was wrong. None were willing to say that
the President had no clothes. A top White House official privately
marveled to the Los Angeles Times about "how easy the press was on
him" and said that reporters treat Reagan "almost reverentially."

This view of a timid, almost reverential press corps was shared by
others in Reagan's PR team-- notwithstanding their often disingenuous
complaints at the time about liberal bias. In "On Bended Knee: The
Press and the Reagan Presidency," author Mark Hertsgaard quotes former
Reagan Communications director David Gergen as saying, "A lot of the
Teflon came from the press. They didn't want to go after him that
toughly."

Today, such loopy public performances by a President might prompt
nightly "White House in Crisis" specials on national television. Back
then, establishment news outlets were in the habit of burying
embarrassing personal facts about Reagan in stories adorned by
misleadingly cheery headlines.

During Reagan's 1988 Moscow summit with Gorbachev, the New York Times
noted that the President had fallen asleep at a meeting with Soviet
dignitaries. The Times subtitled the article: "REAGAN IMPRESSES SOVIET
ELITE." Two days later, another summit-related article in the New York
Times attributed this quote about Reagan to Britain's Margaret
Thatcher: "Poor dear, there's nothing between his ears." The article's
headline: "THATCHER SALUTE TO REAGAN YEARS."

Around the same time Lesley Stahl had her 1986 meeting with a weak and
disoriented President to whom she was forbidden to pose questions,
Time magazine was painting a picture of a totally different President.
Coinciding with the Fourth of July hoopla, Time's cover projected a
beaming Reagan halloed by multicolored fireworks. Titled "Yankee
Doodle Magic," the story offered thousands of idolatrous words about
"one of the strongest leaders of the 20th century" and about "Reagan's
reassertion of presidential leadership" and how "he has restored the
authority of the American presidency."

"If Reagan is afflicted by senility," the magazine scoffed, "some of
the world's leaders might try a case of it."

Time's portrait of the American President bore distinct similarities
to the ones painted of Communist Party leaders by the Beijing press
corps. (Too bad for Time-- as the Iran-contra scandal erupted weeks
later-- that its "strong leader" was said to be out of the loop of his
own foreign policy.)

Compare Time's Teflon treatment of Reagan in 1986 with the magazine's
cover story on Bill Clinton last week. Here's the lead sentence: "Like
a weasel, Bill Clinton emerges from a drainpipe shinier than when he
went in."

The truth about relations between the press and presidency is that
while some things have changed, much remains the same. What's changed
is the willingness of mainstream journalists to unveil, even revile,
the person of the President. With Reagan, relevant questions about his
mental competence weren't even raised-- and a President being asleep
at the wheel should be as newsworthy as a President sleeping around.

Establishment journalists today resemble attack dogs on Clinton's
personal defects, his sex and lies, but they seem unable or unwilling
(or too bored) to act as tough watchdogs on Clinton's
often-conservative public policies, especially economic and foreign.
Time magazine will call Clinton a "weasel" over Monicagate, but not
over his policies on social security or NAFTA or Iraq.

In this regard, nothing much has changed. For when it came to
watchdogging Reagan's economic and foreign policies, mainstream media
were as disconnected and dozy as the President was.
Jeff Cohen is the founder of FAIR, and a panelist on the Fox News
Channel's "News Watch," the media criticism program on the Fox News
Channel (Saturday 7pm ET, Sunday 11am ET). A version of this column
appeared in the Baltimore Sun.

[FAIR Home] | [More on Clinton coverage] | [More columns by Jeff Cohen]


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Wednesday, January 04, 2006

[CanYoAssDigIt] Language Watch

"Dissecrate?"

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Jakob Sandberg <snasboun@hotmail.com>
Date: Dec 29, 2005 12:42 AM
Subject: [Jandek] jandek on corwood
To: jandek@mylist.net

I saw the Jandek on corwood documentary recently, and i have to say
that I really didn´t like it. All my respect to the filmmakers and
there efforts for this film, but it all feels like a jandek
commercial. They talk for an eternity about the tuning of his guitar,
they describe and dissecrate his music, so that everyone can
understand. They try to explain, but why? Somethings are interesting,
like the talk about blank spaces, and the telephone interview, but
most of the time it´s just a explanation of his music. And that
something that shouldn´t be done, I belive.

Jakob Sandberg
Sweden
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Sunday, January 01, 2006

[CanYoAssDigIt] a joyful tghought for the new year!

Rich people in this country not only don't pay their share of taxes,
they are tightwads when it comes to charity. That is why they are
rich - because they are miserly bastards!

From a news source not to be trusted:

The tsunami and charity: I read a good piece analysis of the actual
numbers on charitable donations by Rachard Itani who began by citing
figures compiled by The London Observer, showing that Norwegians
donated the most per head of population ($13.20) followed by the
Swedes ($12.04), the Dutch ($9.16) the Australians ($5.23) and so on,
down to the Americans with a donation of $1.08 per head, and the
Euro-swollen French, whose per head donation amounted to 80 U.S.
cents. The Observer table put Saudi Arabs in the middle of the pack,
at number 6 with a donation of $4 per head, but still outranking
Canadians, Austrians, Brits, Greeks, Americans and French in their
generosity.

Itani took the Observer's numbers a stage further, by comparing
donations as a percentage of each country's per-capita income, the
average amount of money each head of population is theoretically
supposed to earn. This measure of generosity, Itani wrote, "showed
private Saudi individuals as the most generous amongst the people of
the 12 countries mentioned in the Observer article, followed in
descending order by the Swedes, Dutch, Norwegians, Australians,
Germans, Canadians, Greeks, Austrians, Brits, French, and in 12th and
final place, Americans." In fact the Saudis were 1,617% more generous
than 12th place Americans.

And since The Observer's numbers compared private, not official
donations, the generosity of Saudi individuals cannot be dismissed
away as resulting from their "oil wealth. Indeed, Saudi per-capita
income, at $8,530, pales in comparison with American per capita income
at $37,610. "Interestingly," Itani went on, " the pattern of poorer
people giving a larger percentage of their income to charity than
richer people is mirrored in domestic US private charitable donation
patterns: it's a well documented fact that poorer Americans donate a
larger percentage of their income to charity than the richer amongst
them do."


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Tuesday, December 27, 2005

[CanYoAssDigIt] NSA Spied on UN Diplomats During Push for Invasion of Iraq

Daniel Ellsberg thought this story was potentially more important than
the pentagon papers, but the only thing I heard about it on NPR was
some government apologist in the media or academia or think tank
(selected from their revolving cast of right or center-right experts)
assuring us that it was alright because the UN expects to be spied on.
Probably on one of those lame middle of the say shows like "To The
Point."

Did I miss something? Nothing this morning - there was some
latebreaking news about craft shops and a lengthy profile of a
character actor who had written three cook books (and food must be
very important to NPR listeners, because they devote so much broadcast
time to it), and the usual biased reporting on revolutionary movements
and pirate radio (NPR has always been on the side of corporate media
like Clear Channel in opposition to community and citizen-based media
- where the "public" in "National Public Radio" is escapes me) - but
nothing about this story.

December 27, 2005

Where Was the New York Times When It Mattered?
NSA Spied on UN Diplomats During Push for Invasion of Iraq
By NORMAN SOLOMON

Despite all the news accounts and punditry since the New York Times
published its Dec. 16 bombshell about the National Security Agency's
domestic spying, the media coverage has made virtually no mention of
the fact that the Bush administration used the NSA to spy on U.N.
diplomats in New York before the invasion of Iraq.

That spying had nothing to do with protecting the United States from a
terrorist attack. The entire purpose of the NSA surveillance was to
help the White House gain leverage, by whatever means possible, for a
resolution in the U.N. Security Council to green light an invasion.
When that surveillance was exposed nearly three years ago, the
mainstream U.S. media winked at Bush's illegal use of the NSA for his
Iraq invasion agenda.

Back then, after news of the NSA's targeted spying at the United
Nations broke in the British press, major U.S. media outlets gave it
only perfunctory coverage -- or, in the case of the New York Times, no
coverage at all. Now, while the NSA is in the news spotlight with
plenty of retrospective facts, the NSA's spying at the U.N. goes
unmentioned: buried in an Orwellian memory hole.

A rare exception was a paragraph in a Dec. 20 piece by Patrick Radden
Keefe in the online magazine Slate -- which pointedly noted that "the
eavesdropping took place in Manhattan and violated the General
Convention on the Privileges and Immunities of the United Nations, the
Headquarters Agreement for the United Nations, and the Vienna
Convention on Diplomatic Relations, all of which the United States has
signed."

But after dodging the story of the NSA's spying at the U.N. when it
mattered most -- before the invasion of Iraq -- the New York Times and
other major news organizations are hardly apt to examine it now.
That's all the more reason for other media outlets to step into the
breach.

In early March 2003, journalists at the London-based Observer reported
that the NSA was secretly participating in the U.S. government's
high-pressure campaign for the U.N. Security Council to approve a
pro-war resolution. A few days after the Observer revealed the text of
an NSA memo about U.S. spying on Security Council delegations, I asked
Daniel Ellsberg to assess the importance of the story. "This leak," he
replied, "is more timely and potentially more important than the
Pentagon Papers." The key word was "timely."

Publication of the top-secret Pentagon Papers in 1971, made possible
by Ellsberg's heroic decision to leak those documents, came after the
Vietnam War had been underway for many years. But with an invasion of
Iraq still in the future, the leak about NSA spying on U.N. diplomats
in New York could erode the Bush administration's already slim chances
of getting a war resolution through the Security Council. (Ultimately,
no such resolution passed before the invasion.) And media scrutiny in
the United States could have shed light on how Washington's war push
was based on subterfuge and manipulation.

"As part of its battle to win votes in favor of war against Iraq," the
Observer had reported on March 2, 2003, the U.S. government developed
an "aggressive surveillance operation, which involves interception of
the home and office telephones and the e-mails of U.N. delegates." The
smoking gun was "a memorandum written by a top official at the
National Security Agency -- the U.S. body which intercepts
communications around the world -- and circulated to both senior
agents in his organization and to a friendly foreign intelligence
agency." The friendly agency was Britain's Government Communications
Headquarters.

The Observer explained: "The leaked memorandum makes clear that the
target of the heightened surveillance efforts are the delegations from
Angola, Cameroon, Chile, Mexico, Guinea and Pakistan at the U.N.
headquarters in New York -- the so-called Middle Six' delegations
whose votes are being fought over by the pro-war party, led by the
U.S. and Britain, and the party arguing for more time for U.N.
inspections, led by France, China and Russia."

The NSA memo, dated Jan. 31, 2003, outlined the wide scope of the
surveillance activities, seeking any information useful to push a war
resolution through the Security Council -- "the whole gamut of
information that could give U.S. policymakers an edge in obtaining
results favorable to U.S. goals or to head off surprises."

Noting that the Bush administration "finds itself isolated" in its
zeal for war on Iraq, the Times of London called the leak of the memo
an "embarrassing disclosure." And, in early March 2003, the
embarrassment was nearly worldwide. From Russia to France to Chile to
Japan to Australia, the story was big mainstream news. But not in the
United States.

Several days after the "embarrassing disclosure," not a word about it
had appeared in the New York Times, the USA's supposed paper of
record. "Well, it's not that we haven't been interested," Times deputy
foreign editor Alison Smale told me on the evening of March 5, nearly
96 hours after the Observer broke the story. But "we could get no
confirmation or comment" on the memo from U.S. officials. Smale added:
"We would normally expect to do our own intelligence reporting."
Whatever the rationale, the New York Times opted not to cover the
story at all.

Except for a high-quality Baltimore Sun article that appeared on March
4, the coverage in major U.S. media outlets downplayed the
significance of the Observer's revelations. The Washington Post
printed a 514-word article on a back page with the headline "Spying
Report No Shock to U.N." Meanwhile, the Los Angeles Times published a
longer piece that didn't only depict U.S. surveillance at the United
Nations as old hat; the LA Times story also reported "some experts
suspected that it [the NSA memo] could be a forgery" -- and "several
former top intelligence officials said they were skeptical of the
memo's authenticity."

But within days, any doubt about the NSA memo's "authenticity" was
gone. The British press reported that the U.K. government had arrested
an unnamed female employee at a British intelligence agency in
connection with the leak. By then, however, the spotty coverage of the
top-secret NSA memo in the mainstream U.S. press had disappeared.

As it turned out, the Observer's expose -- headlined "Revealed: U.S.
Dirty Tricks to Win Vote on Iraq War" -- came 18 days before the
invasion of Iraq began.

From the day that the Observer first reported on NSA spying at the
United Nations until the moment 51 weeks later when British
prosecutors dropped charges against whistleblower Katharine Gun, major
U.S. news outlets provided very little coverage of the story. The
media avoidance continued well past the day in mid-November 2003 when
Gun's name became public as the British press reported that she had
been formally charged with violating the draconian Official Secrets
Act.

Facing the possibility of a prison sentence, Katharine Gun said that
disclosure of the NSA memo was "necessary to prevent an illegal war in
which thousands of Iraqi civilians and British soldiers would be
killed or maimed." She said: "I have only ever followed my
conscience."

In contrast to the courage of the lone woman who leaked the NSA memo
-- and in contrast to the journalistic vigor of the Observer team that
exposed it -- the most powerful U.S. news outlets gave the revelation
the media equivalent of a yawn. Top officials of the Bush
administration, no doubt relieved at the lack of U.S. media concern
about the NSA's illicit spying, must have been very encouraged.

Norman Solomon is the author of War Made Easy: How Presidents and
Pundits Keep Spinning Us to Death, from which this article has been
adapted.

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Monday, December 26, 2005

[CanYoAssDigIt] Fwd: Mothers Against Noise (MAN)

I fear visitors to this website are being pranked, and this is an
Onion article tricked up as a campaign, but whether it's serious or a
joke, I urge you to check this out!

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Kim Flint <kflint@loopers-delight.com>
Date: Dec 26, 2005 5:47 PM
Subject: against noise
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

Apparently some of you are bringing on the apocalypse, or the downfall of
civilization, or something like that:

http://www.mothersagainstnoise.org/

My suggestion: Do whatever you can to get on her list. Great PR!

kim

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Saturday, December 24, 2005

[CanYoAssDigIt] Movie reviews

I'm trying to play nice here, but it's probably beyond my abilities...

I saw part of Mr. Deeds Goes To Town. I was disappointed I didn't
catch the whole thing, but what I saw impressed the hell out of me.
Capra's message about human dignity and interdependence is really
needed today.

I while back I saw Adam Sandler's parody, "Mr. Deeds." He did a very
effective job of blunting the message of the original. I wonder if it
was funded through the "Wag The Dog" group. It didn't piss me off so
much at the time, I didn't realize how powerful the original was.

Interesting to note that the chief reviewer in the IMDB.com said that
Sandler's film was a remake of a depression-era "propaganda" film.

We have fallen so far that a message of being responsible to your
neighbor, being a good participant in civic affairs is propaganda, but
a film that says "everybody is venal, you are a useless idiot, greed
is good, etc" is just good clean fun.

The movie viewers were divided on the Sandler film: "it sucks!" "It
rules - you suck!" "you stupid - Sandler rules! Me smash!" Really
depressing. No sense at all of what has been lost over time.

I also saw part of "Sleepless In Seattle" which I had seen in its
entirety before. It was a better film than I thought.

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Friday, December 23, 2005

[CanYoAssDigIt] Matt makes a new friend on Yahoo IM...

sillywabit198 is currently not in your Messenger List.
Add to your Messenger List (Ctrl+Shift+A) Report as Spam (Alt+Shift+R)

sillywabit198: hi.... anyone there?
sillywabit198: well anyway, guess aour not there?
valis2001us: I'm here
sillywabit198: hold on a sec. be right back
valis2001us: ok
sillywabit198: ok im bacck. sorry bout that. still there?
valis2001us: sure am
sillywabit198: oh yoour there hi...
valis2001us: hi! hows it going?
sillywabit198: a/s/l (age sex location)?
valis2001us: what time is it there?
sillywabit198: im 27/f/USA. eas lookin at your profile. thought you
might like to chat.
sillywabit198: so what have you been up to valis2001us?
valis2001us: well you know my age sex and location then if you've
looked at my profile. If i was lying, I'd say I was 23, not 49!
sillywabit198: cool. i was just hangin out watching tv. i was getting
kinda horny (*blushes)
valis2001us: My name's matt, I thought that was in my profile
valis2001us: tv doesn't make me horny, it makes me want to throw up!
sillywabit198: feel like a litttle cyber fun with me ? please please...
sillywabit198: i think ill just take that as a yes... being as that im
starting to get real horny here.. lol ok?
valis2001us: I have never had "cyberfun" before, I'm sure I'm not very
good at it.
sillywabit198: alrigght how bout i get down on my knees in front of
you and help you out of your pants?
valis2001us: Have you ever seen "The Man With One Brown Shoe" (remade
in the US as the man with one red shoe)? The woman is trying to
seduce him, but he wanted to play her his avant garde compositions on
the violin. It was a very funny scene. I could do that with you, I'm
very keen to talk about my music.
valis2001us: The stuff I've been writing lately is very chromatic.
It's still tonal in the sense that it's rooted in a particular key,
but I use 12 tones all over the place on it.
valis2001us: I don't play violin like the guy in the movie, I come
from a rock background. Guitar and bass.
valis2001us: I'm currently playing bass in a band called Dweebish
(www.myspace.com/dweebishband) that I'm very excited about. Really
top flight musicians, I feel lucky to play with them.
valis2001us: I've been writing songs with a guy named Chris in
England, you can here some christmas songs we did at
www.soundclick.com/sonsofsarookh
valis2001us: but I harbor the secret desire to be an avant garde
composer of the first rank. I really don't have a site for this stuff
yet... but some early experiments are up at
www.soundclick.com/mrroboto.
valis2001us: hello?
valis2001us: hello?
valis2001us: hello?

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Thursday, December 22, 2005

[CanYoAssDigIt] Fwd: [Fwd: Censure and Special Committee to Investigate the President]

John Conyers has done some great things - then and now.

After Rosa Parks now much praised actions in the Montgomery Bus Boycott, she was a pariah. She and her husband could not find work, and she was threatened and harrassed.  She moved to Michigan where John Conyers employed her for the rest of her working life.

When nobody else would look at election irregularities in 2004, Conyers looked into it. Since he got no cooperation or support, his results were inconclusive, but strongly indicate that Bush had stolen two elections.

Now he is doing yet another great thing. Let's put aside our political differences long enough to do the right thing together.

Life could be a dream, impeach impeach!


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Censure and Special Committee to Investigate the President
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 15:34:02 -0800
From: Congressman John Conyers <john.conyers@johnconyers.com>
Reply-To: 1999990633.181199.108@conyersforcongress.com
To: joesibley@comcast.net


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December 21, 2005

Demand Censure and Accountability for Misconduct by Bush and Cheney in Iraq War


Dear Friend:

Today I released a staff Report entitled, "The Constitution in Crisis: The Downing Street Minutes and Deception, Manipulation, Torture, Retribution and Coverups in the Iraq War." 

In response to the Report – which finds substantial evidence of federal legal violations by numerous members of the Bush Administration --

I have introduced a resolution creating a Select Committee with subpoena authority to investigate the misconduct of the Bush Administration with regard to the Iraq war and report on possible impeachable offenses; as well as Resolutions proposing both President Bush and Vice-President Cheney should be censured by Congress based on the uncontroverted evidence of their abuse of power. 

To read the Report, sign up as a citizen cosponsor of these efforts, or make a contribution and obtain a signed copy of a book version of the report to be published in the coming months, please go to the Iraq Report Action Center on my web site.

Iraq Report Action Center

In addition to highlighting the devastating arrogance, hubris, and wrongheadedness of the Bush Administration, the Report also highlights the danger of one party rule in Washington and inability of the Republican Congress to operate as any sort of check or balance on the Administration.  It is important that we as a nation say "never again" to going to war under false pretenses, and covering up official wrongdoing.  Thank you for helping me look at these problems, and please pass on this email to friends and colleagues who may be interested in this issue as well.

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Thank you for your help and your continued stand for a better democracy.

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Monday, December 19, 2005

[CanYoAssDigIt] 'Dr. Germ,' Others Released in Iraq

Anybody who's accused of a crime by the US government is obviously guilty, right?  So why are they releasing "Dr. Germ"? 

perhaps because the charges against her were filthy lies, designed to whip up war frenzy against Iraq?

I guess she's lucky that she didn't end up in a ditch, with a bullet in the back of her head, after rape and torture, like our surregates in Nicaragua (the moral equivalent of our founding fathers) or El Salvadore, or Chile, or any number of totalitarian hell holes invented and sustained by the US.

Before it gets to that, everybody sing along with me:

Life could be a dream,
Impeach, Impeach!

'Dr. Germ,' Others Released in Iraq

By JASON STRAZIUSO, Associated Press Writer 43 minutes ago

BAGHDAD, Iraq - About 24 top former officials in
Saddam Hussein's regime, including a biological weapons expert known as "Dr. Germ," have been released from jail, while a militant group released a video Monday of the purported killing of an American hostage.
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The first results of Thursday's parliamentary election were released, with officials saying the Shiite religious bloc, the United Iraqi Alliance, got about 58 percent of the votes from 89 percent of ballot boxes counted in Baghdad province.

Across
Iraq, meanwhile, demonstrations broke out to protest a government decision to raise the price of gasoline, heating and cooking fuel, and the oil minister threatened to resign over the development.

An Iraqi lawyer said the 24 or 25 officials from Saddam's government were released from jail without charges, and some have already left the country.

"The release was an American-Iraqi decision and in line with an Iraqi government ruling made in December 2004, but hasn't been enforced until after the elections in an attempt to ease the political pressure in Iraq," said the lawyer, Badee Izzat Aref.

Among them were Rihab Taha, a British-educated biological weapons expert, who was known as "Dr. Germ" for her role in making bio-weapons in the 1980s, and Huda Salih Mahdi Ammash, known as "Mrs. Anthrax," a former top Baath Party official and biotech researcher, Aref said.

"Because of security reasons, some of them want to leave the country," he said. He declined to elaborate, but noted "some have already left Iraq today."

Lt. Col. Barry Johnson, a U.S. military spokesman in Baghdad, would say only that eight individuals formerly designated as high-value detainees were released Saturday after a board process found they were no longer a security threat and no charges would be filed against them.

Neither the U.S. military or Iraqi officials would disclose any of the names, but a legal official in Baghdad said Taha and Ammash were among those released.

The official, who asked not to be identified because of the sensitivity of the issue, said those released also included Hossam Mohammed Amin, head of the weapons inspections directorate, and Aseel Tabra, an Iraqi Olympic Committee official under Odai Saddam Hussein, the former leader's son.

The video from the extremist group The Islamic Army of Iraq was posted on a Web site and showed a man purportedly being shot in the back of the head. Last week, the group had claimed it had killed civilian contractor Ronald Allen Schulz, a native of North Dakota.

The video did not show the victim's face, however, and it was impossible to identify him. The victim was kneeling with his back to the camera, with his hands tied behind his back and blindfolded with an Arab headdress when he was purportedly shot. The video also showed Schulz's identity card.

A separate video, shown on a split screen, showed images of Schulz alive. The group had aired that video when he was first taken hostage earlier this month.

Schulz has been identified by the extremist group as a security consultant for the Iraqi Housing Ministry, although family and neighbors from his current home in Alaska, say he is an industrial electrician who has worked on contracts around the world.

Schulz served in the Marine Corps from 1984 to 1991. He moved to Alaska six years ago, and friends and family say he is divorced.

The German government, meanwhile, said kidnappers had freed a German aid worker and archaeologist taken hostage with her driver in northern Iraq more than three weeks ago. Susanne Osthoff, 43, was reported in good condition at the German Embassy in Baghdad. It was unclear whether Osthoff's Iraqi driver had also been freed.

The military said a U.S. Marine was killed by small arms fire Sunday in the town of Ramadi, in central Iraq. The death brought to 2,156 the number of U.S. service members killed since the start of the war in 2003, according to an Associated Press count.

In other violence Monday, a suicide car bomb exploded outside a children's hospital in western Baghdad, killing at least two people and wounding 11, including seven police, officials said. Police believe the bomb had targeted a convoy carrying a police colonel, who was among the injured.

In western Baghdad, gunmen attacked the convoy of Deputy Baghdad Gov. Ziad Tariq, killing three civilians and wounding three of his bodyguards, police said. Tariq was not injured.

Iraqi soldiers on Monday began Operation Moonlight, which the U.S. military described as the first large-scale operation planned and executed by soldiers of the Iraqi 1st Brigade. The mission's aim is to disrupt insurgent activity along the Euphrates River near the border with
Syria.

There are five Iraqi Army companies and one U.S. Marine company taking part in the operation, said Marine Capt. Jeffrey S. Pool.

With 89 percent of the ballot boxes counted in Baghdad province — Iraq's largest district — preliminary results showed the United Iraqi Alliance received 1,403,901 votes, or about 58 percent, while the Sunni Arab Iraqi Accordance party got 451,782 votes, and former Prime Minister Ayad Allawi's Iraqi National List with 327,174 votes, the electoral commission said.

The commission did not say how many people voted in Baghdad province or provide further details. Baghdad is Iraq's biggest electoral district with 2,161 candidates running for 59 of the 275 seats in Iraq's parliament.

Results from southern Basra province, also mixed but predominantly Shiite, saw the clergy-backed United Iraqi Alliance significantly ahead, winning 612,206 votes with 98 percent of ballot boxes counted. The list headed by Allawi, a secular Shiite, was in second with 87,134 votes, while the Sunni accordance party trailed with 36,997 votes.

Kurdish parties were overwhelmingly ahead in their three northern provinces.

In a speech Sunday,
President Bush praised the vote and warned against a pullout of U.S. forces. He said the election would not end violence but "means that America has an ally of growing strength in the fight against terror." He also warned that a U.S. troop pullout would "signal to the world that America cannot be trusted to keep its word."

The fuel prices were raised Sunday — some as much as nine times — to curb a growing black market, Oil Ministry spokesman Assem Jihad said.

A gallon of imported and super gasoline in Iraq was raised to about 68 cents, but Iraqis were upset by the fivefold increase. The price of locally produced gas was raised to about 48 cents per gallon, a sevenfold increase.

In Amarah, 180 miles southeast of Baghdad, police fired into the air to disperse the hundreds of protesters who had gathered in front of the provincial government headquarters. The demonstrators, however, didn't leave, and scuffles broke out with police.

Drivers blocked roads and set tires on fire near fuel stations in the southern city of Basra, and hundreds demonstrated outside the governor's headquarters to protest the increases.

Oil Minister Ibrahim Bahr al-Uloum said when the Cabinet raised prices, it also decided that the extra money would be used to support more than 2 million low-income families. Some aid money was supposed to reach the families before the increases, but that didn't happen, he said.

"Dr. Ibrahim will submit his resignation to the Iraqi government if the situation continues as is," he said, referring to himself. "We should take in consideration the living conditions and the economic situation of the citizens."

Iraq's oil minister has previously said that cheap domestic fuel prices had encouraged smuggling to other countries. Iraq's government has continued Saddam's practice of heavily subsidizing fuel prices.

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Sunday, December 18, 2005

[CanYoAssDigIt] Life Could Be A Dream, Impeach, Impeach....

Saturday Nights alright for impeachment,
saturday night's alright, oh yeah!

"Bush Defends Secret Spying in the U.S." - but would anybody in their
right minds defend Bush at this moment?

He keeps invoking America's enemies. He demonstrates over and over
again what should have been obvious to everybody for years - he is
America's worst enemy at the moment.

The process of Stupification (tm) goes on... every 18 months, people
are twice as stupid as before. Thus, Bush is completely unaware that
he is BREAKING THE LAW. Is anybody in Congress still smart enough to
understand that? We'll see....

By JENNIFER LOVEN, Associated Press Writer 1 hour, 32 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - Facing angry criticism and challenges to his authority in Congress,
President Bush on Saturday unapologetically defended his
administration's right to conduct secret post-Sept. 11 spying in the
United States as "critical to saving American lives."
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Bush said congressional leaders had been briefed on the operation more
than a dozen times. That included Democrats as well as Republicans in
the House and Senate, a GOP lawmaker said.

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., said she had been told
on several occasions that Bush had authorized unspecified activities
by the National Security Agency, the nation's largest spy agency. She
said she had expressed strong concerns at the time, and that Bush's
statement Saturday "raises serious questions as to what the activities
were and whether the activities were lawful."

Often appearing angry in an eight-minute address, the president made
clear he has no intention of halting his authorizations of the
monitoring activities and said public disclosure of the program by the
news media had endangered Americans.

Bush's willingness to publicly acknowledge a highly classified spying
program was a stunning development for a president known to dislike
disclosure of even the most mundane inner workings of his White House.
Just a day earlier he had refused to talk about it.

Since October 2001, the super-secret National Security Agency has
eavesdropped on the international phone calls and e-mails of people
inside the United States without court-approved warrants. Bush said
steps like these would help fight terrorists like those who involved
in the Sept. 11 plot.

"The activities I have authorized make it more likely that killers
like these 9/11 hijackers will be identified and located in time,"
Bush said. "And the activities conducted under this authorization have
helped detect and prevent possible terrorist attacks in the United
States and abroad."

News of the program came at a particularly damaging and delicate time.

Already, the administration was under fire for allegedly operating
secret prisons in Eastern Europe and shipping suspected terrorists to
other countries for harsh interrogations.

The NSA program's existence surfaced as Bush was fighting to save the
expiring provisions of the USA Patriot Act, the domestic
anti-terrorism law enacted after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.
Democrats and a few Republicans who say the law gives so much latitude
to law enforcement officials that it threatens Americans'
constitutional liberties succeeded Friday in stalling its renewal.

So Bush scrapped the version of his weekly radio address that he had
already taped — on the recent elections in Iraq — and delivered a live
speech from the Roosevelt Room in which he lashed out at the senators
blocking the Patriot Act as irresponsible and confirmed the NSA
program.

Bush said his authority to approve what he called a "vital tool in our
war against the terrorists" came from his constitutional powers as
commander in chief. He said that he has personally signed off on
reauthorizations more than 30 times.

"The American people expect me to do everything in my power under our
laws and Constitution to protect them and their civil liberties," Bush
said. "And that is exactly what I will continue to do, so long as I'm
the president of the United States."

James Bamford, author of two books on the NSA, said the program could
be problematic because it bypasses a special court set up by the 1978
Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act to authorize eavesdropping on
suspected terrorists.

"I didn't hear him specify any legal right, except his right as
president, which in a democracy doesn't make much sense," Bamford said
in an interview. "Today, what Bush said is he went around the law,
which is a violation of the law — which is illegal."

Retired Adm. Bobby Inman, who led the NSA from 1977 to 1981, said
Bush's authorization of the eavesdropping would have been justified in
the immediate aftermath of the Sept. 11 attacks "because at that point
you couldn't get a court warrant unless you could show probable
cause."

"Once the Patriot Act was in place, I am puzzled what was the need to
continue outside the court," Inman added. But he said, "If the fact is
valid that Congress was notified, there will be no consequences."

Susan Low Bloch, a professor of constitutional law at Georgetown
University Law Center, said Bush was "taking a hugely expansive
interpretation of the Constitution and the president's powers under
the Constitution.

That view was echoed by congressional Democrats.

"I tell you, he's President George Bush, not King George Bush. This is
not the system of government we have and that we fought for," Sen.
Russell Feingold, D-Wis., told The Associated Press.

Added Sen. Patrick Leahy (news, bio, voting record), D-Vt.: "The Bush
administration seems to believe it is above the law."

Bush defended the program as narrowly designed and used "consistent
with U.S. law and the Constitution." He said it is employed only to
intercept the international communications of people inside the U.S.
who have been determined to have "a clear link" to al-Qaida or related
terrorist organizations.

Government officials have refused to provide details, including
defining the standards used to establish such a link or saying how
many people are being monitored.

The program is reviewed every 45 days, using fresh threat assessments,
legal reviews, and information from previous activities under the
program, the president said. Intelligence officials involved in the
monitoring receive extensive training in civil liberties, he said.

Bush said leaders in Congress have been briefed more than a dozen
times. Rep. Pete Hoekstra, R-Mich., told House Republicans that those
informed were the top Republican and Democratic leaders of the House
and Senate and of each chamber's intelligence committees. "They've
been through the whole thing," Hoekstra said.

The president had harsh words for those who revealed the program to
the media, saying they acted improperly and illegally. The
surveillance was first disclosed in Friday's New York Times.

"As a result, our enemies have learned information they should not
have," Bush said. "The unauthorized disclosure of this effort damages
our national security and puts our citizens at risk."

Bush has more to worry about on Capitol Hill than his difficulties
with the Patriot Act. Lawmakers have begun challenging Bush on his
Iraq policy, reflecting polling that shows half of the country is not
behind him on the war.

On Sunday, the president was continuing his effort to reverse that by
giving his fifth major speech in less than three weeks on Iraq.

One bright spot for the White House was a new poll showing that a
strong majority of Americans oppose, as does Bush and most lawmakers,
an immediate withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq. The AP-Ipsos poll
found 57 percent of those surveyed said the U.S. military should stay
until Iraq is stabilized.

___

Associated Press Special Correspondent David Espo and writers Andrew
Bridges and Will Lester contributed to this report.

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[CanYoAssDigIt] RE: Did the Feds Frame Bryan Epis?

Dear Mr. Gardner:

I read your excellent article on the Counterpunch website. I hate to
quibble about small, inconsequential things, but unfortunately, I only
know about small, inconsequential things. You wrote: "Chico is a
small city near the Northern end of California's Central Valley where
the farmers grow rice and olives on vast tracts. The main claim to
fame of the local college, Cal State Chico, is binge drinking. When
Bryan Epis went there in the mid-1980s, Cal State Chico regularly won
Playboy's 'party-school-of-the-year' award."

I thought I remembered that the Playboy's 'party-school-of-the-year'
award was an urban legend, so I checked it out on Snopes.

this is what they wrote:

http://www.snopes.com/college/admin/playboy.asp

Claim: Playboy magazine compiles annual rankings of America's top
party schools.

Status: Multiple — see below

* Playboy magazine compiles annual rankings of America's top party
schools: False.
* Playboy magazine has twice published their own rankings of
America's top party schools: True.
* Playboy magazine has sometimes printed other publications'
rankings of America's top party schools: True.

Origins: Since about 1955, rumors have been aired at every college
in the country that Playboy had conducted a survey of drinking on
college campuses and used it to compile a list of "America's best
party schools." As far as we can ascertain, such a list has appeared
in the pages of Playboy only twice, in its January 1987 issue and its
November 2002 issue. (Playboy has sometimes also used college rankings
compiled by others, such as the list of "The Top 20 Party Schools for
2000" as ranked by The Princeton Review.)

Prior to 2002, Playboy had compiled such a list only once. They gave
their reason for reprising this feature in 2002 as:

Campus legend has it that Playboy does a yearly ranking of
America's top party schools. Truth is, we haven't done such a roundup
since 1987, when we tagged Cal State-Chico the craziest campus in the
nation. Chico has had bragging rights for 15 years, causing students
to binge with pride while parents and administrators have dried out
fraternities and sororities and canceled Halloween. Some students have
sent us e-mails that say "Don't you dare say Chico State. I'm sick of
having to defend it. It's all because of your article 15 years ago!"
Why do another ranking now? The kids demanded it, our public relations
department is bombarded with calls from students who wonder where
their schools rank. We wanted to hear what goes down on campus — the
good, the bad and blurry — in your own words, more than 1500 of you
wrote. These are your stories.

The 2002 list read as follows:

01. Arizona State
02. California State University, Chico
03. Rollins
04. Louisiana State
05. West Virginia
06. Colorado
07. Wisconsin
08. Connecticut
09. Kansas
10. San Diego State
11. Georgia
12. Ohio State
13. Iowa State
14. Florida State
15. Colorado State
16. Florida
17. Tulane
18. Washington State
19. East Carolina
20. Michigan State
21. Mississippi
22. University of California, Santa Barbara
23. Lehigh
24. Vanderbilt
25. James Madison

Honorable Mentions: Miami of Ohio, Ohio University, Colgate, Penn
State, Pitt, Southern Illinois, Slippery Rock, Tennessee, Texas, and
Dayton.

The information for Playboy's 1987 list of party schools was compiled
in 1986 from the reports of Playboy staffers who interviewed campus
club leaders, dorm rush chairmen, fraternity presidents and other
campus social studs at more than 250 schools nationwide.

The 1987 list read as follows:

01. California State University, Chico
02. University of Miami, Coral Gables
03. San Diego State University, San Diego
04. University of Vermont, Burlington
05. Slippery Rock University, Pennsylvania
06. University of Connecticut, Storrs
07. West Virginia University, Morgantown
08. Plymouth State College, Plymouth, New Hampshire
09. Mercer University, Macon, Georgia
10. University of Virginia, Charlottesville
11. State University of New York, Cortland
12. Colorado State University, Fort Collins
13. Arizona State University, Tempe
14. University of Nevada, Las Vegas
15. Boston University, Boston
16. Central Michigan University, Mount Pleasant
17. Southern Illinois University, Carbondale
18. Ball State University, Muncie, Indiana
19. Oklahoma State University, Stillwater
20. Central Connecticut State University, New Britain
21. University of Maryland, College Park
22. University of Mississippi, Oxford
23. West Georgia College, Carrollton
24. University of Texas, Austin
25. Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Cambridge
26. University of Kansas, Lawrence
27. Kansas State University, Manhattan
28. Glassboro State College, Glassboro, New Jersey
29. University of Florida, Gainesville
30. Eastern Kentucky University, Richmond
31. University of Iowa, Iowa City
32. University of Oklahoma, Norman
33. Brown University, Providence, Rhode Island
34. Ohio University, Athens
35. University of Massachusetts at Amherst
36. University of Georgia, Athens
37. Louisiana State University, Baton Rouge
38. University of Missouri/Rolla
39. Reed College, Portland, Oregon
40. Fairhaven College, Bellingham, Washington

Honorable Mentions: Alabama, Auburn, Clemson, Colorado at Boulder,
Columbia, Dartmouth, Georgetown, Iowa State, Kent State, Michigan
State, Penn State, Purdue, Rhode Island, Rutgers, Tennessee at
Knoxville, Trinity College.

Gentle souls that they are, Playboy did its best to take the sting out
of being left off the January 1987 compilation by stating, "If your
school isn't listed, it's probably because we didn't include
professionals."

Which leads us straight into the legend which has sprung up around
this famed list.

Then there's the computer bulletin board-fueled story about the
magazine (usually Playboy) that was ranking the Top 10 Party Schools
in the country. Students at the University of Wisconsin were taken
aback when their school didn't rate even an honorable mention; after
all, everyone knows about the legendary cheesehead antics that go on
in Madison. But when the kids contacted the magazine, they were told:
"We don't rank professionals."

But of course this charming bit of blarney has been told about any
number of schools, cheese-enhanced and otherwise.

Barbara "party line" Mikkelson

Last updated: 27 September 2002

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Sources Sources:

Brunvand, Jan Harold. The Baby Train.
New York: W. W. Norton, 1993. ISBN 0-393-31208-9 (p. 193).

Prato, Alison. "Playboy's Top 25 Party Schools."
Playboy. November 2002 (p. 89).

Roeper, Richard. "Tale of Peanut Butter Spreads Latest Legend."
Chicago Sun-Times. 26 July 1994 (p. 11).

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