Had enough of my cave.
 I just miss Elaine.
 She was all I had here that
 I could look at.
 
 --- In CanYoAssDigIt@
 wrote:
 >
 > Please don't go back to your cave!
 > 
 > I'm sorry you've had enough of debate, but it's my opinion (and
 > apparently that if Ignatius) that bad ideas should be countered with
 > good ideas.  All it takes for bad ideas to triumph is for good ideas
 > to be silent. In terms of getting along and all that, I think it's a
 > good idea, I would like to get along and all that, but Bobbie
 > continues to aggressively promote hate and lies, and I have to agree
 > with Ignatius, whoever he is.  Perhaps he should have let the 
 argument
 > stay where one whatever list he found it, but maybe he was just
 > taking Bobbie at her word when she said she wanted it spread like a
 > virus all over the place. I've used the same strategy myself - doing
 > what she asked, but appending corrective comments to it.
 > 
 > I like a flowering of free speech on my lists, and my blogs... but
 > it's true that I've worked hard to stay out of Bobbie's way and to
 > make sure she stays out of mine, it's a shame to have this stuff pop
 > up again. At the very least, I hate spam, so i will consider making
 > the list moderated again.
 > 
 > I sent the following message to you on the YouTube account, but I'll
 > send it to you here too.
 > 
 > I'd be tempted to say that Bobbie does what she does because she's
 > mentally ill (I'm not saying that to be mean, she has a history of
 > psychiatric hospitalization and she says herself she's manic
 > depressive) - but there are lots of people like her - that send 
 these
 > false stories around that present them and their country in the 
 worst
 > possible light.  They seem to have a very distorted view of their 
 own
 > religion.  Take the story of the good Samaritan.  Jesus didn't say
 > that if you see a Jew (or a Mexican, or a Canadian or a Palestinian)
 > sick by the side of the road, you should throw them on a cart and 
 send
 > them back to Mexico... or throw them on a plane and have them taken 
 to
 > Syria to be tortured.
 > 
 > All this crazy nationalism is very scary, I am very pleased that one
 > Presidential candidate, Dennis Kosinich, is calling it by the proper
 > name - fascism. When Jesus said "render unto Caesar what is 
 Caesar's,"
 > he didn't mean let Caesar grasp God-like powers... and since we 
 don't
 > have Caesars in modern domocracy, we have servants, the only 
 possible
 > relevant comment Jesus made on nationalism is rendered irrelevant.
 > 
 > Jesus didn't say "waterboard the weak, for they wish to inherit a
 > crust of bread"
 > 
 > He didn't say "if you IMAGINE that a man wishes to slap you on the
 > cheek, hang him in a cell and beat him until his legs are pulpified
 > and then he dies."
 > 
 > I feel very strongly about this stuff, and it seems like a mentally
 > ill person who sends out hateful lies and encourages them to forward
 > them to everybody they know is inviting trouble.
 > 
 > The only one of all those comments that Robin Williams really said 
 was
 > the last one - and it amazes me that people can read it without
 > understanding that he was being CRITICAL of the new American 
 Fascism.
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
 > From: Rick REED RxR <arexar4@...
 > Date: Nov 10, 2007 4:34 AM
 > Subject: [CanYoAssDigIt] Re: Fwd: The Plan, falsely attributed to 
 Robin Williams
 > To: CanYoAssDigIt@
 > 
 > NATT...
 >  Why isn't this group Moderated?
 > 
 >  All my Moderated Groups have proven to grow much faster
 >  as crap like this is avoided.
 > 
 >  I don't care for debate anymore.
 > 
 >  We can all get along or just ...
 > 
 >  well..I might return to my cave instead.
 > 
 >  --- In CanYoAssDigIt@
 >
 
 
 
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