I've finally achieved consistency in my life. Any person of average or above intelligence can predict what I will say next with unerring accuracy. And what I say will always be wrong.

Monday, November 23, 2015

[ITSALLABOUTMEMAN] Re: Occupy Facebook Page

 

Hi Linnea,

Thank you for your interest in my complaint, and I'm sorry I didn't respond before... but I got another post form this group:  https://www.facebook.com/OccupyWallSt/?fref=ts and realized its the only one I'm hearing from. I don't have much objection to what they actually have to say, but am angry at being excluded from the dialogue, particularly when I think my only offence was bringing up this sort of issue:

The central role of US law enforcement and intel agencies in coordinating the bloody crushing of the Occupy Movement in cities across the US (http://thiscantbehappening.net/node/2300)

When people would post things praising the Democratic Party as our salvation over the Republicans.  I have wondered if it isn't another of those pernicious Democratic Party astroturf front groups. 

At any rate, I'd join a better Occupy group if you point me to one... but if this is one of the more official ones, and you have some contact with them, maybe you can advise them to knock this sort of thing off, I've been giving them a lot of free publicity, not the kind they would like, and it makes the movement seem totalitarian, not democratic, when they behave this way.

On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 11:49 PM, Linnea Paton <calaway.thyme@gmail.com> wrote:
Can you send me a link to the page? There are a lot of them.

A lot of pages direct their email to us because we're one of the few Occupy groups that actually answer email even though we don't have admin access to most groups or fb pages.

My guess is that the page you had access to has no set of agreements for how they operate and no accountability principles, so there's not much that can be done.

We at occupywallstreet.net aren't really involved with some of the more popular OWS pages and can't change them, sorry.

On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 9:58 AM, matt love <mattlove1@gmail.com> wrote:
Nothing has been done about this yet.

I've started to become a little impatient, and I have discussed this
on my blog, and have mentioned it to one Facebook friend who is an
Occupy Wall Street supporter. I have 43 other friends who are also
supporters on Facebook. Am I going to have to try to enlist them to
try to get your moderators to correct their error?

Why do you praise your adversaries, (Obama, for example) and censor
your friends?  This is not a program for success.

Please look into this and do something about it.

On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 5:26 AM, matt love <mattlove1@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dear Comrades,
>
> Some one of your nearly 20 Occupy Wall Street activists who administer your
> page on facebook made a mistake and blocked my ability to post to this list.
> As an active and contributing member, this is frustrating to me, and my
> frustration compounded by the difficulty in reaching somebody who can do
> something about this, resulting in me sending this email to this address.
> Can you forward this to somebody who can correct the situation?
>
> Thank you very kindly,
>
> Matt Love
>
>
> Description
> This page is administered by nearly 20 Occupy Wall Street activists
> representing a range of perspectives, from progressive to radical left. This
> page is not the singular voice of Occupy Wall Street and posts herein
> reflect the diversity of perspectives within the movement.
>
> Would you like to interview an organizer with the #occupy movement? Email
> press@occupywallstreet.net


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[ITSALLABOUTMEMAN] Re: Massive anti-Muslim backlash

 

 By now, decent people would understand its time ot get off the Democratic Party payroll and support the Greens and Jill Stein.

But since MoveOn are an astroturf neoliberal democratic party front group, that will never happen. Ben Wikler, if you have one shred of human decency left in you, I pity you. But I understand that everybody has to eat, for years I had to work for a very retrograde outfit. Now I am free, and I can chose the operations I support based on morality, not expediency.  Needless to say, MoveOn isn't one of them. I wish you a good day, and a brighter tomorrow.

On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 3:34 PM, Ben Wikler, MoveOn.org Civic Action <moveon-help@list.moveon.org> wrote:
47 House Democrats have joined Republicans to pass a shameful anti-refugee bill, with a veto-proof majority.
47 House Democrats have joined Republicans to pass a shameful anti-refugee bill, with a veto-proof majority.1

Our last chance to stop this xenophobic anti-refugee backlash is in the Senate.2 Will you chip in $3?

Click here to chip in: Stand with refugees—and against anti-Muslim bigotry.

For more details on our emergency campaign, see Anna's message below:


Dear MoveOn member,

The Paris attacks have sparked a massive wave of anti-Muslim bigotry.

We need to speak out against this racist, xenophobic backlash. Now.

At least 29 Republican governors—and even one Democrat—say they want to close their states to Syrian refugees.3 Indiana's governor has already turned a family away.4 Presidential candidates are talking about shutting down mosques and discriminating against refugees on the basis of religion.5,6 A state senator in Tennessee is proposing rounding up all Syrian refugees in the state.7

And now Republicans in Congress are threatening to cut off funding for refugee assistance while 4 million Syrian refugees are begging for help.8

This is immoral. And stupid. Because shutting out refugees doesn't make America safer—just the opposite: it fuels hatred at home, and resentment and extremism around the world. Will you chip in $3 to help fight back?

Click here to chip in and help fight the GOP's racist, anti-refugee backlash.

The first thing we need to do is hold governors accountable for attacking refugees. We've launched rapid-response campaigns in all 30 states, calling their governors out for this xenophobic pandering. More than 115,000 MoveOn members have already joined the call to stop attacking refugee families.

Second, we need to block Republicans in Congress from defunding refugee resettlement. This is the most cynical, immoral act you could imagine in response to a refugee crisis of this scale, and we're flooding Capitol Hill with phone calls and petition signatures to stop it.

Finally, we need to show the world that the hate mongers and racists don't speak for us. So we're teaming up with allies on college campuses and mobilizing MoveOn members on social media to show the world that we are a welcoming nation—and to push back against anti-refugee and anti-Muslim vitriol.

But this xenophobic anti-refugee backlash has intensified fast, which is why we need to raise at least $150,000 to enable all this work. Will you chip in $3?

Yes, I'll chip in to stand with refugees and against anti-Muslim bigotry.

This is an incredibly dangerous moment for America. If we don't push back against this outpouring of hate, it could spiral out of control into a wave of hate crimes like what we saw after 9/11—or get us stuck in another foolish war.

Republicans are telling people to be afraid of refugees. But over the past 40 years, America has taken in 2.5 million refugees.9 Not one terrorist attack has been committed in America by a refugee.10 Even the reports that the Paris attackers included a Syrian refugee are likely false.11

The truth is, attacking refugees makes America LESS safe by feeding extremist propaganda as a massively chaotic situation spills from Syria into Europe.

But the American people are scared. And they're being misled by shameless politicians pandering to hate. That's why we need to fight back now, before this gets out of control.

Will you chip in $3 to help stand against the anti-refugee backlash?

Click here to chip in and join the fight.

Thanks for all you do.

–Anna, Brian, Corinne, Milan, and the rest of the team

Sources:

1. "House OKs GOP Bill To Curb Syrian Refugees With Veto-Proof Majority," TPM, November 19, 2015 
http://www.moveon.org/r/?r=308281&id=135557-30042692-9Xj08Lx&t=1

2. "Senate Dems Try To Shift Focus From Syrian Refugees By Backing Visa Waiver Limits," HuffPost Politics, November 19, 2015 
http://www.moveon.org/r/?r=308278&id=135557-30042692-9Xj08Lx&t=2

3. "30 Governors Call For Halt To U.S. Resettlement Of Syrian Refugees," National Public Radio, November 17, 2015
http://www.moveon.org/r/?r=308235&id=135557-30042692-9Xj08Lx&t=3

4. "Syrian refugee family bound for Indiana forced to relocate after Gov. Pence's ban on refugees entering state," November 18, 2015
http://www.moveon.org/r/?r=308270&id=135557-30042692-9Xj08Lx&t=4 

5. "A Complete Guide To How The GOP Candidates Reacted To Syrian Refugees After The Paris Attacks," ThinkProgress, November 17, 2015
http://www.moveon.org/r/?r=308254&id=135557-30042692-9Xj08Lx&t=5

6. "Donald Trump: 'Strongly consider' shutting mosques," CNN, November 16, 2015
http://www.moveon.org/r/?r=308255&id=135557-30042692-9Xj08Lx&t=6

7. "Tennessee GOP leader: Round up Syrian refugees, remove from state," The Tennessean, November 17, 2015
http://www.moveon.org/r/?r=308256&id=135557-30042692-9Xj08Lx&t=7

8. "Syrian refugee fight sparks government shutdown threat," Politico, November 16, 2015
http://www.moveon.org/r/?r=308257&id=135557-30042692-9Xj08Lx&t=8

9. "Refugee Resettlement in Metropolitan America," Migration Policy Institute, March 1, 2007
http://www.moveon.org/r/?r=308258&id=135557-30042692-9Xj08Lx&t=9

10. "We risk more in not accepting Syrian refugees into the US," The Hill, October 29, 2015
http://www.moveon.org/r/?r=308259&id=135557-30042692-9Xj08Lx&t=10

11. "Here's Why You Should Stop Worrying About Terrorists Entering The U.S. As Refugees," The Huffington Post, November 18, 2015
http://www.moveon.org/r/?r=308260&id=135557-30042692-9Xj08Lx&t=11

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