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And the value of Gary Hart's advice is exactly what Iran paid for it. The history of American military adventures shows that in the abscence of provocation (Such as the Gulf of Tonkin, or Saddam's weapons of mass distruction) it will be invented.
The notion that Iran can avoid conflict by pulling back from it's own borders while the US acts like a three year old that owns the world (if it can't have what it wants, it will smash it) is rediculous.
I think that it was a good idea for Ahmadinejad to come to the US... he can either stay at home and leave the propaganda campaign unanswered, or he can come the US and try to counter it.
I have been astonished by the number of people that recognized Lee Bollinger pathetic anti-intellectual display for what it was. Perhaps that's what Hart, an embarrassing irrelevant failure of a man who buried his own political career through his own arrogance and bad judgement, was really upset about.
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Presuming that you are not actually ignorant enough to desire war with the United States, you might be well advised to read the history of the sinking of the U.S.S. Maine in Havana harbor in 1898 and the history of the Gulf of Tonkin in 1964.
Having done so, you will surely recognize that Americans are reluctant to go to war unless attacked. Until Pearl Harbor, we were even reluctant to get involved in World War II. For historians of American wars the question is whether we provoke provocations.
Given the unilateral U.S. invasion of Iraq in 2003, you are obviously thinking the rules have changed. Provocation is no longer required to take America to war.
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Geoffrey R. Stone: Ahmadinejad and Columbia's Critics
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I was going to refuse to do the usual "Of course the president of Iran is a bad guy..." but since nobody demanded I do it (refreshing! Many cruel dictators have been treated well when they visited the U.S. and received our aid money, too; Bollinger is a pandering fool but then our country and our congress seem to be overflowing with his kind lately - some of them are Democrats.
Having said it, that idiot Bollinger handed him the opportunity to take the moral upper hand, and he took it and ran with it. His response was quite eloquent, and I was pleased that a good chunk of the audience responded with applause. There must have been a good number of students and faculty who were deeply embarrassed by Bollinger's cowardly, rude, and boot-licking display.
The coverage here in Canada was biased strongly against Ahmadinejad, but when he made a good point, we were allowed to hear the audience's approval. I wonder if that was the case in American news outlets?
If you google "President of Iran" the top news result is: "We have no homsexuals in Iran" - 4 hours ago
Which of course was a very silly thing to say, his biggest foot-in-mouth moment that I heard,and the main one everybody wants to talk about, I guess. In the US, they just like to pretend there are no homosexuals. If you play a little footsie in the men's room, they wanna toss you out on ear so fast you don't know what happened to you. If you confine your promiscuity to women (like Kennedy, Johnson, Clinton, Gouliani, and countless others, they'll put you in charge.
I was really disturbed by the crazed rants I heard from students on the radio, though. Phrases like "Genocidal Islamiofascist" - ooze out of the mouths of these upper class cretins with alarming ease. They probably normally have trouble saying anything more complicated than "Gimme X-Box for Christmas" in other occasions, but they have been well indoctrinated in this matter.
The case for describing Bush's behavior as genocidal monomania would be an easy one to make, in a world based on principle rather than power. Ahmadinejad's capacity has as yet been untested. Nobody would be given a pulpit if they described Bush in those terms, and they shouldn't, in public discourse arguments should be made on the basis of facts, not mudslinging (in a private forum like this we can say whatever we like about Chucklenuts)
However, the same goes for On 9/24/07, Kathy Leonard-Bushman <sassykathy464@
On 9/24/07, Matt Love < matt.mattlove1@
"Mr President, you exhibit all the signs of being a petty and cruel dictator."
Why was Columbia University President Lee Bollinger saying that that to the president of Iran and not the president of the United States?
Because he could. It was cheap and easy, there was no risk of consequence. Because like the majority of our inteligencia, he's a moral and intellectual coward, completely lacking in any moral courage.
I've been listening to soundbites of the useless idiot students. Bush Youth.On 9/24/07, Romi Elnagar < bluesapphire48@
By David Swanson
A Roseland, Indiana, city council member orders police to remove a fellow city council member. The police escort him out, shove him down on his face and pound his head. Onlookers either cheer, do nothing, joke, behave as if all were normal, or yell at others to let the police do their jobs. Not a single person protests. Only the one victim is hauled off in the police car. No one jumps in and shouts "Before this becomes Nazi Germany, arrest me too!"
A University of Florida student asks inconvenient questions of a U.S. senator. Police tackle him and shoot him with a taser. Onlookers, including the senator, either cheer, do nothing, joke, behave as if all were normal, or yell at others to let the police do their jobs. Not a single person seriously protests. Only the one victim is hauled off to jail. Fascist-friendly media outlets love the story because the senator is a Democrat, but they don't tell the story right. Progressive media outlets don't tell the story, even though they would tell it right, because the senator is a Democrat.
A television newscaster announces that planes were delayed in Boston's airport and tells us the name of a college student, shows us her picture, and tells us that we should blame her. He tells us to give the airport security guards credit for doing their jobs. They mistook her school project for a bomb. Again, we must let the "authorities" handle things.
We must pretend toothpaste and deodorant are weapons. We must pass through metal detectors. We must shout through bullet proof glass. We must refrain from hysterically laughing at police officers who solemnly believe every backpack or stroller is a threat to national security. We must speak freely in "free speech zones," except when we speak the wrong things freely and go to jail for it. We must be treated as criminals any time we attempt to get near members of our government.
We must accept genocide to support "our troops" doing their job. With very few exceptions, when those troops witness torture, rape, and murder, they either cheer, do nothing, joke, behave as if all were normal, or yell at others to let the mercenaries and the troops do their jobs. They're brave enough to fight and kill, but just as scared to challenge abuses of power as everyone back home.
Back home in the land of the free, the wrong sign or t-shirt can now land you in jail. The wrong bumper sticker at a peace rally can get you a ticket. The wrong words out of your mouth can now constitute any number of serious crimes. Police brutality is now considered part of keeping us safe. And everyone is too scared to notice that anything is changing. Those who notice, obviously believe nothing can be done or believe someone else will do it. If those abroad who resent the United States really did so for our freedoms, we'd be pretty safe now.
"If You See Something, Say Something."
Everyone needs to quit all the idiotic spying on neighbors and snooping around their bags to check for bombs. When you see someone assaulted by police, SAY SOMETHING. Do not let that moment pass.
One young woman approached the University of Florida police and screamed "Why are you doing that?" That's a start.
Sam Provance exposed some of the torture at Abu Ghraib. That's a start.
But most Americans appear paralyzed by fear. And that includes many Americans with the power to put a halt to our slide into martial law. We have an opposition political party afraid to oppose anything. We have grassroots groups that swear obedience to the opposition party, even as the useless unopposing party condemns the activists. Those with the power to end national crimes are afraid to do so. They fund the occupation of Iraq and promise never to impeach anyone, all as part of letting the "authorities" handle things. And citizens play along, pretending the Democrats have no power and, in addition, shouldn't use it. They base this on the theory that by not using any power you are most likely to acquire more power. This is thinking driven by fear. We have almost nothing but fear now driving our national decisions, and it is beginning to scare me.
But there are signs of courage. There is a growing and successful counter-recruitment movement. Expensive corporate movies are beginning to challenge the occupation of Iraq. And peace and impeachment activists are engaging in more and more civil disobedience. People are speaking and protesting and sitting-in in the face of nascent fascism. Even sometimes those in power are speaking truth to those with more power.
Congressman Dennis Kucinich alone in Congress is repeatedly articulating the indisputable but taboo fact that the Democratic leadership in Congress can end the occupation by announcing that it will not fund it anymore. Congresswoman Lynn Woolsey has suggested that pseudo peace activists targeting Republicans may not be enough, that it might be a good idea to challenge pro-war Democrats as well. The Congressional Black Caucus Monitor is holding "Lawn Jockey Awards" for the "four worst black members of Congress." And many progressives around the country are energetically opposing the presidential candidacy of Hillary Clinton. There are signs of life still in our body politic, but they are struggling against an incoming tide of fear and self-inflicted terrorism.
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"Mr President, you exhibit all the signs of being a petty and cruel dictator."
Why was Columbia University President Lee Bollinger saying that that to the president of Iran and not the president of the United States?
Because he could. It was cheap and easy, there was no risk of consequence. Because like the majority of our inteligencia, he's a moral and intellectual coward, completely lacking in any moral courage.
I've been listening to soundbites of the useless idiot students. Bush Youth.
By David Swanson
A Roseland, Indiana, city council member orders police to remove a fellow city council member. The police escort him out, shove him down on his face and pound his head. Onlookers either cheer, do nothing, joke, behave as if all were normal, or yell at others to let the police do their jobs. Not a single person protests. Only the one victim is hauled off in the police car. No one jumps in and shouts "Before this becomes Nazi Germany, arrest me too!"
A University of Florida student asks inconvenient questions of a U.S. senator. Police tackle him and shoot him with a taser. Onlookers, including the senator, either cheer, do nothing, joke, behave as if all were normal, or yell at others to let the police do their jobs. Not a single person seriously protests. Only the one victim is hauled off to jail. Fascist-friendly media outlets love the story because the senator is a Democrat, but they don't tell the story right. Progressive media outlets don't tell the story, even though they would tell it right, because the senator is a Democrat.
A television newscaster announces that planes were delayed in Boston's airport and tells us the name of a college student, shows us her picture, and tells us that we should blame her. He tells us to give the airport security guards credit for doing their jobs. They mistook her school project for a bomb. Again, we must let the "authorities" handle things.
We must pretend toothpaste and deodorant are weapons. We must pass through metal detectors. We must shout through bullet proof glass. We must refrain from hysterically laughing at police officers who solemnly believe every backpack or stroller is a threat to national security. We must speak freely in "free speech zones," except when we speak the wrong things freely and go to jail for it. We must be treated as criminals any time we attempt to get near members of our government.
We must accept genocide to support "our troops" doing their job. With very few exceptions, when those troops witness torture, rape, and murder, they either cheer, do nothing, joke, behave as if all were normal, or yell at others to let the mercenaries and the troops do their jobs. They're brave enough to fight and kill, but just as scared to challenge abuses of power as everyone back home.
Back home in the land of the free, the wrong sign or t-shirt can now land you in jail. The wrong bumper sticker at a peace rally can get you a ticket. The wrong words out of your mouth can now constitute any number of serious crimes. Police brutality is now considered part of keeping us safe. And everyone is too scared to notice that anything is changing. Those who notice, obviously believe nothing can be done or believe someone else will do it. If those abroad who resent the United States really did so for our freedoms, we'd be pretty safe now.
"If You See Something, Say Something."
Everyone needs to quit all the idiotic spying on neighbors and snooping around their bags to check for bombs. When you see someone assaulted by police, SAY SOMETHING. Do not let that moment pass.
One young woman approached the University of Florida police and screamed "Why are you doing that?" That's a start.
Sam Provance exposed some of the torture at Abu Ghraib. That's a start.
But most Americans appear paralyzed by fear. And that includes many Americans with the power to put a halt to our slide into martial law. We have an opposition political party afraid to oppose anything. We have grassroots groups that swear obedience to the opposition party, even as the useless unopposing party condemns the activists. Those with the power to end national crimes are afraid to do so. They fund the occupation of Iraq and promise never to impeach anyone, all as part of letting the "authorities" handle things. And citizens play along, pretending the Democrats have no power and, in addition, shouldn't use it. They base this on the theory that by not using any power you are most likely to acquire more power. This is thinking driven by fear. We have almost nothing but fear now driving our national decisions, and it is beginning to scare me.
But there are signs of courage. There is a growing and successful counter-recruitment movement. Expensive corporate movies are beginning to challenge the occupation of Iraq. And peace and impeachment activists are engaging in more and more civil disobedience. People are speaking and protesting and sitting-in in the face of nascent fascism. Even sometimes those in power are speaking truth to those with more power.
Congressman Dennis Kucinich alone in Congress is repeatedly articulating the indisputable but taboo fact that the Democratic leadership in Congress can end the occupation by announcing that it will not fund it anymore. Congresswoman Lynn Woolsey has suggested that pseudo peace activists targeting Republicans may not be enough, that it might be a good idea to challenge pro-war Democrats as well. The Congressional Black Caucus Monitor is holding "Lawn Jockey Awards" for the "four worst black members of Congress." And many progressives around the country are energetically opposing the presidential candidacy of Hillary Clinton. There are signs of life still in our body politic, but they are struggling against an incoming tide of fear and self-inflicted terrorism.
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