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Saturday, June 04, 2011

[ItsAllAboutMeMan] Re: sex scandals

 

Well, they are at it again.. the Wieners, the Edwards, etc.  There was a time in the shadowy past when there were people on this group that actually believed that Republican politicians are sex mad perverts who can't keep their pants up, but Democrats are sober statesmen, with healthy libidos channeled into sex with their pair-bonded S.O. because of their lack of repression.

Once upon a time I warned the folks in this group against such hubris. Unfortunately, I couldn't find the original posting, though I found a couple that alluded to it (occasioned by the charging of Elliot Spitzer, and the initial revelations about John Edwards affair and love child, which I've attached below).

In the interim Gore has had his own sex scandals...

This reminder hardly seem necessary any more; nobody here currently is advancing such foolish arguments, since the list has become a true progressive forum, rather than a place where democratic party loyalists posed as progressives and resented the heck out of arguments made by true progressives!  In fact, by the time I posted the two messages below in 2008, nobody disagreed.  Who says there's no progress in the world?

So much political coverage is gossip anyway. It was sort of interesting how damaging Edward's $400 haircut was. There's a little piece of the Dominique Strauss-Kahn scandal that as far as I can tell has gone unremarked on. At least one media outlet clubbed him with his love of up to $35,000 suits to show his lack of connection with the common man.  Obama gets his suits from the same tailor. They ask how can he afford his high flying lifestyle on his salary (roughly the same as Obama's).  How can a public servant in a time of suffering and austerity live so lavishly, etc etc.

You get the picture. Once you are public persona non grata, they will pile on you with anything they have. If you are the monied interests fair haired child, the very same things get no attention at all.  That's where teflon comes from - it's not something innate, its something conferred upon by what my wife and I sardonically call "the shadowy overlords."

But just like Noriega, Saddam, Mubarak, Somoza, Marcos, et al if Obama becomes a liability, they'll drop him like a hot potato and lavish their affection on some other new kid in town.

On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 12:49 PM, matt love <mattlove1@gmail.com> wrote:

"It would not be the first time that a high-profile politician became ensnared in a prostitution scandal..."


Then they give four examples:

Sen. David Vitter of Louisiana – Republican

Connecticut Gov. John Rowland - Republican

New Jersey's Jim McGreevey - Democrat

Sen. Larry Craig of Idaho – Republican

So the Republicans still have the lead, but the Democrats are closing the gap. It seems to me that among liberals there is a triple standard around these issues.

When the perp is Republican:  What do you expect, they are a bunch of closeted, hypocritical pervs! Anybody who keeps yammering on about morality can't be trusted!

When the perp is a Democrat:  It's a private issue between consenting adults (and their spouses, who no doubt encouraged them to do it). Nobody was hurt by it (see previous parenthetical comment). A vigorous political leader like Kennedy or Clinton is naturally going to be vigorous in the sack.  Live with it!

When the (non) perp is Ralph Nader:  There's something creepy about a guy who has never been caught in a scandal... I'm sure he put one over on those good people at GM when they were spying on him!  He's a sly devil, he is... as bad as Hitler!

On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 1:04 PM, matt love <mattlove1@gmail.com> wrote:
In this very forum not so very long ago, in the midst of euphoria about republican sex scandals, I urged restraint, saying that the Dems would have their turn soon enough. I wasn't privy to any special knowledge, just an understanding about how things work developed over years of observation.

Well, the chickens have come home to roost as they often do.

When a Republican is caught in a sex scandal, liberals can hardly contain their glee.  When a Democrat is caught, they huff that it's a private matter, it's nobody's business.  Of course there is the matter of hypocracy... Republicans claim to be family value supporters, and they carry on like this!  On the other hand, no hypocracy in claiming to understand the problems of the common people, and getting $400 haircuts.  Or being the global green messiah and living in an energy-sucking mansion.

I am absolutely certain that Ralph Nader is somehow behind Edwards' problems.  The bastard!


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