On Nov 24, 2007 6:22 PM, maybeyoureright2008 <maybeyoureright2008
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> i dont get it --- In
> somewheredowntheroa
I'll try to explain again. I was saying bring the troops home, bring their behavior home with them. Maybe it isn't news here in the when US Airforce pilots get involved in a little harmless horseplay and kill a dozen Italian civilians. Not even worth reporting. But it did happen even if it isn't news here, and the Italians didn't like it very much when the US military found that the US military men had done nothing wrong in this case.
I am sure it isn't news in the US when US servicemen rape a school girl on Okanowa - but they certainly hear about it in Japan.
It may not be news here in the US when US servicemen commit crimes in Iraq, but the Iraqis know what's being done to them.
If those 737 bases on foreign soil are closed and the military is brought home to the US, it won't be Iraqis they are torturing and killing any more - it will be REAL people - you, your relatives, or your neighbors. Of course, you may hate your neighbors. MIght even be tempted to turn them in (that's how a lot of people ended up in Gitmo - somebody with a grudge collected a bounty).
Read the following closely. This is isn't just the story of somebody 1/2 way around the world. This is your story. Maybe not today. Maybe not tomorrow. Maybe not the day after tomorrow. But it's coming to a neighborhood near you.
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Manadel al-Jamadi is well-known to much of the world. What a lot of people don't realize is that this was a man who was a father, a husband, and a good Muslim. He wasn't just the 'photo of the corpse of the Abu Ghraib scandal'. Imagine if he were your father/brother/
I've also posted related links below the photograph. I couldn't write anything up that's better than the article below entitled "The Crucifixion of Manadel al-Jamadi."
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Manadel al-Jamadi's widow and son, whose names have been withheld, hold a photograph of convicted Abu Ghraib torturer Sabrina Harman smiling over his frozen corpse. al-Jamadi had been tortured to death by U.S. personnel. Released to the public domain by al-Jamadi's family. Image courtesy of Wikimedia Commons. |
A Deadly Interrogation - a very good piece by the New Yorker | Iraqi Died While Hung From Wrists - Common Dreams | Tortured to death in Abu Ghraib prison - SW | Manadel al-Jamadi - Wiki |
The Crucifixion of Manadel al-Jamadi
If his hands were pulled up five feet—that's to his neck. That's pretty tough. That would put a lot of tension on his rib muscles, which are needed for breathing. It's not only painful—it can hinder the diaphragm from going up and down, and the rib cage from expanding. The muscles tire, and the breathing function is impaired, so there's less oxygen entering the bloodstream ... (A)sphyxia is what he died from--as in a crucifixion.
Eight Navy SEALs involved in al-Jamadi's capture were issued letters of reprimand that essentially ended their military careers, but were acquitted on criminal charges when medical expert testimony determined that it was the interrogator who was responsible for al-Jamadi's death.
NOTE: I've taken the liberty of linking Graner and Harman to their wiki pages, and I've added links to stories about their convictions.
The Abu Ghraib personnel who posed with his corpse, Charles Graner and Sabrina Harman, were later convicted on other charges and sentenced to prison time.
CNN.com - Graner sentenced to 10 years - Jan 16, 2005
Abu Ghraib Sentence: Six Months, Sabrina Harman Was Convicted
The CIA interrogator, who had presumably acted under orders, was never charged.
-Linda
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