Matt,
I apologize to you. I found the messages in my inbox notifiying me that I have new ideas to add to my list. I didn't see them because they were mailed out under the same header as the first message, and I overlooked them.
I believe I have put the blame in the wrong place. It would appeard that digital-democracy.org are responsible for the weakness of this application - it's not the technical design of the product, its the paucity of decent content that makes it nearly useless.
Here are today's figures:
http://www.allourideas.org/occupywallstreet?info=maintwitter
90076 votes on 68 ideas
digital-democracy.org, you only found 2 more ideas worth adding to the mix? the results will have no scientific validity at this rate, if my choice is between "repeal the death tax" and "give everybody at a flat rate" there is no chance for good ideas to drive out bad ideas. Most of these ideas are medicre at best.... why not practice true democracy, and put ALL ideas up there, and let the hoi polloi sort out what they really want?
I believe your web tool is flawed. I brought it to your attention because your institution is the host of this web tool, is it not? I want you to be aware that no new ideas are being added to the Occupy Wall Street (89409 votes on 66 ideas - the 1st number changes but the 2nd one doesn't). Many of these ideas are terrible, and don't encourage further involvement. The theory is the more people get involved, the better the questions, the better choices - well, you're the sociology guy, you tell me). I have personally attempted to add more ideas, but they do not appear. I thought, well I must be doing something wrong, but it seems unlikely that almost 90000 other people have visited the site, and nobody else has any new ideas to add, either.
Now if Digital Democracy has failed to upload ideas sent to them, shame on them (and shame on me).
But I can tell you that on the page I set up, there are 2 ideas (only one, really, the 2nd one reads "sample idea") - I attempted to add six more, unsuccessfully. As far as I know, I have never recieved any notification that there are more ideas to be considered for inclusion.
You really have to get this fixed. I know what it's like dealing with organization IT departments. They make the guys in the British sitcom seem like wizards - but the lack of functionality of this site not only makes it useless, it makes people cynical about using these kind of tools at all.
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Matthew Salganik <matt@allourideas.org> wrote:Hello Matt,I believe there is a misunderstanding here. Ideas that are uploaded are sent to the idea marketplace creator (not allourideas.org) to be activated. It is not our decision what ideas get activated and what ideas don't. You can see this for yourself by uploading an idea to your own idea marketplace.I hope this clarifies things and sorry for the confusion,MattOn Nov 7, 2011, at 6:18 PM, matt love wrote:
I got 24 votes on my site for the choice between
The prioritizing Occupy goals page is terrible, should have been recommended by the Daily Bad. It has the same 66 choices it had when ...
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sample choice
But I would get a lot more if your add choices function worked. As I have a lot of other good choices to present to people, and I want other people to present their good ideas, too (better than "end the inheritance tax" for example, one of the 66 choices over at Brand X occupy site.
I promised my community that I would be persistent in addressing this problem on your website.
Thank you for your immediate attention.On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 8:35 PM, matt love <mattlove1@gmail.com> wrote:
Just thought you'd like to know what I said about your occupy wall street checklist on The Dialy Good website (and what I'll repeat as many other places I can until I get tired or you get it fixed):
Hey Daily Good readers, I recommend that you don't waste your time with that site, go to mine instead:
http://www.allourideas.org/occupypagesucks
I will press the webmaster as many times a day as it takes to make sure the list of ideas is updated, and my page works the way its supposed to. It's clear the people who made the other page don't care.Today, 8:29:50 PM
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You should be ashamed for recommending that site, it's terrible, should have been recommended by the Daily Bad. It has the same 66 choices it had when I first looked at it - a few good ideas, many trivial ones, a depressing number of bad ones. I suggested 20 more. None of them have appeared. It's not an exercise in democracy, it's an exercise in draining off time (like change.org, and moveon.org) that could be spent productively, in activism.Today, 8:12:54 PM
And these are the kind of ideas people will get to vote for on my page (when it starts working - it doesn't seem to be working any better than the page I'm complaining about - but the difference is, I will be persistent. I can be very persistent.
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Someone has uploaded the idea 'You should go to http://www.good.is/post/occupy-wall-street-s-open-source-to-do-list/ and tell them how lousy that page is.' to your question 'Would you rather spend your time productively, or have it wasted?'
If you want others to be able to vote on this idea, please activate it by visiting the following url:
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To see current results, or to vote further, you may want to visit the idea marketplace that you created:
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Someone has uploaded the idea 'You should go the webmaster of this site and ask him/her why its so lame' to your question 'Would you rather spend your time productively, or have it wasted?'
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Someone has uploaded the idea 'Leave a message at http://www.allourideas.org/occupywallstreet?info=maintwitter about why their site sucks so bad.' to your question 'Would you rather spend your time productively, or have it wasted?'
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