I've finally achieved consistency in my life. Any person of average or above intelligence can predict what I will say next with unerring accuracy. And what I say will always be wrong.

Monday, July 02, 2007

[CanYoAssDigIt] Re: [OregonDems_etc] George Seldes talks fascism and corporatism

Let's try to make sure we remain in the reality-based community. Prescott Bush was neither a Nazi nor a Nazi sympathiser. He did business with Nazis long after he should have stopped, but that puts him in the company of many other capitalists and politicians.

Averill Harriman, for example, a Democratic politician served in the Administration of Harry Truman (a little monster much admired and loved by both Democrats and Republicans today) and Allen Dulles, who served in both Democratic (Truman and Kennedy) and Republican (Eisenhower) regimes.

It's good to bring these things to light, but unfortunately, when you start digging, you start finding both red and blue roots in the muck.

I should mention that Ralph "as bad as Hitler" Nader is not and has never been a member of the Nazi Party, nor has he ever financed Nazis or recycled Nazis into the space program or intelligence on border of the Soviet Empire.

On 7/2/07, Larry Wilson <larry@larry-wilson.com > wrote:

Fascism could be called the dictatorship of the corporations, whereas communism is called the dictatorship of the proletariat.  True freedom never seems to include a dictatorship of any kind.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: ShunkW <shunkw@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Jul 2, 2007 4:30 PM
Subject: [Out_Of_The_Frying_Pan] George Seldes talks fascism and corporatism
To: shunkw@sbcglobal.net

One of my "heroes" has long been George Seldes…..possibly the GREATEST "muckraker" in modern history….He interviewed the Chancellor of Germany after World War I and the US Government saw fit to censor the interview….many people think if it hadn't been censored that World War II could have been avoided….He was kicked out of the Soviet Union after he interviewed Stalin and during Mussolini's rise of modern fascism in Italy he had to be smuggled out in the trunk of a car to avoid being shot. He wrote a wonderful piece called "Facts and Fascism" that clearly points out the connection with fascism and corporatism even IN THE US….and while the US media reported about it in other countries, basically the people running the US media were corporatists/fascists themselves…He also individually lists how to recognize fascism…and it is amazing how closely the things he wrote in 1943 haven't changed in all that time….It isn't a coincidence that it was a Bush that help fund the Nazis…..

 

"Facts and Fascism"

 

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/George_Seldes/Facts_and_Fascism.html

 

 

Some years back Tim Robbins and Quinton Terrintino did a documentary about his life and named it after his book "Tell the Truth and RUN"….

 

http://brasscheck.com/seldes/

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Seldes

 

People that tell the truth under personal risk like he and Socrates have ALWAYS been my "heroes"….


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--
Larry

"The power of the Executive to cast a man into prison without formulating any charge known to the law, and particularly to deny him the judgment of his peers, is in the highest degree odious and is the foundation of all totalitarian government whether Nazi or Communist".

Winston Churchhill

Silence is abdication. Abdication is consent. Be Loud. - Anon


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2 comments:

Anonymous said...

Are you just plain stupid or what?

The Pope of Pop said...

yes, the cowardly ignorant little anonymous people like to believe they are smart and people who have bothered to learn something about how the world works are the stupid ones. It has always been this way, and it always will be.