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Monday, December 29, 2008

Re: [ILoveIshtar] Re: Oh, is that right!

thanks for posting that.

i just joined the list yesterday so clicked around to see the other images and found the review by this michael giltz fellow, which is astounding in its abject shallowness and totally literal reading of this great and subtle comedy! aside from the blatantly sexist comments (did it *really* set "women" directors back ten years?), the guy complains that the songs are bad(!) and that he's subjected to a LOT of them. like...um. duh?

i hadn't seen it in at least 10 years but watched it on christmas day with my boyfriend, who had claimed to be a fan--what a great bonding experience: turns out we were both impressed at how much better it was than we'd recalled it! i hadn't remembered the cinematography being so artful (i googled it to learn that vittorio storaro had won oscars for reds, last emperor and apocalypse now, had NO idea) and that the humor held up, lo these 21 years! i know i'm preaching to the choir on this list, but it's such a sad story on one hand (the studio head who comes in halfway through shooting, has a grudge against warren beatty and dustin hoffman, is curmudgeonly about it being overbudget and the LADY director and leaks negativity to the press pre-release thus ensuring bad reviews) and yet, had it not been so universally reviled, folks probably wouldn't have such a proud and almost defiant allegiance to this movie, which, to my mind, is on par with any cult comedy classic like 'caddyshack', 'meatballs', or 'airplane', totally ahead of its time. i am not exaggerating!

if so-called "uncomfortable" humor like the office or seinfeld had already been part of cultural consciousness, it probably would have been hugely popular, but folks just didn't know how to deal with something so subtle and self-consciously "bad".

my dream is for a remake. with hm...matt damon and ben affleck, and maybe angelina jolie?

okay, in your wildest dreams, who would you have play lyle and chuck? i know this is a blatant attempt to get some activity on this list, but hey, it's after xmas and before new years, what else are you doing?

kind regards,
heather




On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 7:48 PM, n8binus <n8binus@yahoo.com> wrote:

--- In ILoveIshtar@yahoogroups.com, "matt love" <mattlove1@...> wrote:
>
> You have to squint a bit to read this poster, but it's worth the
> effort. Here's more evidence that several reviewers liked Ishtar...
> before, for whatever reason, people figured out they better say they
> hated it...
>

Yo Matt,

The attachment is "not stored". (We can't see the poster)

-N8


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